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General Discussion / Re: Southend (21st August)
« on: August 24, 2021, 10:29:19 AM »
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  “Investing” money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, won’t even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyone’s guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Let’s hope I’m wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase “every little helps” is applicable in this case. Any other views?

This will sound hypocritical but I completely agree with your analysis whilst also having signed up to the 12th Man scheme because I believe in IC and his squad and it is my eyes a (very, very small) way of showing a bit of extra support (and yes, I know the money all goes to the financial black hole that is 'the club').  That is the lot of a football fan, even after the so-called reset of COVID doing completely irrational things in the name of supporting the club.  Unfortunately we find ourselves at step 1 without the resources or infrastructure to support that level and, it increasing appears to be, very little idea of how we might move towards getting the structures and finance in place to even support step 2.

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General Discussion / Re: Stadium Manager
« on: August 24, 2021, 08:26:38 AM »
MAH, Griss, thanks for clearing that up, I guess you won't be surprised that I won't now be wasting the fuel in travelling to Lynn for a 'social drink' on the 7th.

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General Discussion / Re: Stadium Manager
« on: August 23, 2021, 10:15:42 PM »
So a meeting called by FOTL is not FOTL meeting ?

Nope, FOTL open evening, open to all fans who wish to come along and have a beer or socialise a bit, maybe make a few suggestions about how they would like to see the FOTL go forward?

...we have nothing in the pipeline yet to speak of. This is one of the reasons for having an open evening,this gives fans an opportunity to make suggestions and put ideas forward,not just for possible ways to raise funds but also to make suggestions as to where those funds could be spent. :dontknow:

Griss, if it not to be a 'proper meeting' then perhaps this needs to be explained to fans before people spend their time and petrol in going to a 'social' event.  I expected (hoped) the meeting to be an opportunity for the committee to explain to members and non-members alike what they have planned for the future and to listen to fans about the sort of things they would a) like to support and b) give direction for where future funds raised could be spent.  Given how few fans (as a proportion of the average crowd) were members of the FOTL in prior years I would have thought this would have been a key requirement if the goal of expanding the membership is to be achieved.

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General Discussion / Re: Southend (21st August)
« on: August 23, 2021, 02:02:30 PM »
Will leave my thoughts about off-field matters for another post (think it might be a long one)

On the field I thought we did well and like KES said, we looked like a proper NL side, albeit I think both teams will finish bottom half this season.  The two new centre halves looked better than what we had previously and McFadden looked better with them alongside him.  Both wing backs had good games and Jones pulled off some good saves when we pushed forward and left ourselves open at the back later on but disappointed that he adopted the Mair MO of not coming for crosses at any point during the game.  Thought the midfield two came out second best and not sure Sundire pushed his case for replacing either of them for the next game.  Rowley looked very good and most of our good play in the first half went through him, sticking him out on the wing when we changed formation didn't help him or the side imo.  Up front, IC said on Radio Norfolk that they were too far apart and I think that is probably an understatement and why this wasn't pointed out (or acted upon) during the game is anyones guess.  I didn't think any of the subs made much of an impact, Gyasi runs around quickly but no real end product and the others stuggled to get up to the pace of the game and I don't think the change in shape helped us as much as Southend adopting a 'sit back and hit them on the break' attitude.
 
Moving forward we looked a lot more solid at the back and the wing backs provided good outlets, unfortunately IC also said that this was it for the squad so we do look very thin if we get injuries and / or silly suspensions, maybe Linton will take his opportunity over the next three games?  Would like to see another midfielder in but if the budget won't allow it then we will just have to live with what we have but we have to try and move the ball quicker although that also needs better movement from those in front of them - hopefully another week of full-time training will address some of this ready for another couple of tests this coming weekend.

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General Discussion / Re: F OT L open evening
« on: August 20, 2021, 02:04:26 PM »
...The rules of a club (often called its constitution) are critical; they determine how the officers and other management committee members of the club are appointed, and what powers they have. If  the rules aren’t followed then potentially the committee members aren’t appointed lawfully, and so their actions may not be lawful either.

This could result in the committee members being personally liable for the actions of the club.

The committee of the club must carry out the expressed wishes of the MEMBERS.

So, the FOTL's Supporters Club committee members can be held legally responsible, just like Trust committee members are.

Going to agree to disagree on this B&G.  Having read through the FOTL constitution, it is written very, very loosely and with no reference to taking into account the views of members other than at the AGM so there isn't much the FOTL committee could do that it couldn't be argued would fall within the stated Aims and Objectives

If they are not prepared to go to their members on such matters as major expenditure then I believe the Committee members will experience problems ahead and it could also affect the take up of new membership.

This is a separate point and one I would fully agree with and may be an indication of why the membership was where it was at the last AGM.  A couple of years ago the accounts had a full breakdown of purchases made for the benefit of the club (and included items for the reserves and ladies sides as well as the first team) but unfortunately a similar breakdown was not provided for the past two financial years at the last AGM.

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General Discussion / Re: F OT L open evening
« on: August 20, 2021, 09:20:33 AM »
One of the main things I would like to be assured of is that as its an Independent Supporters Club, the committee is aware that they are responsible for reporting to its  members and not Mr Cleeve.

Hopefully he will not try to assert any pressure on them. If he wants something from them it should be in the form of a request and not a demand. Presumably before any  large ticket items are purchased, the members will be approached for their approval.

FOTL's working with and not for, Lynn FC Ltd.

B&G, the FOTL isn't set up in the same way as the Blue & Gold Trust in many ways (no statutory regulation, different ethos, different constitution, etc) so I don't think the members 'need' to be approached for approval of funds being moved to the club, indeed in many cases this movement is explicit in the promotion of the fundraising activity ie 12th Man was promoted specifically for player budget so it would seem unnecessary to then ask members when this money is given to the club.

I think the onus is on the FOTL committee to have a good handle on these sorts of questions prior to the meeting on the 7th September and people can then make informed decisions on a) joining and b) which activities they are going to support

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General Discussion / Re: F OT L open evening
« on: August 20, 2021, 09:03:32 AM »
Malcolm, thanks for the committee list and roles

When asked who is in charge of fund raising all the fotlsc committee are,and all of the fans

Whilst this may be true in its widest sense, fundraising doesn't happen 'on its own' and generally needs to be co-ordinated and, in my experience, preferably by an individual who co-opts others for specific tasks rather than 'by committee'. 

Please could you give a summary of the current fundraising schemes that are up and running?  I know you are a new committee still finding it's feet but you have had two meetings since the AGM and the first home game is tomorrow and whilst transparency as to how the FOTL operates and where fundraising proceeds are directed is a laudable aim it is a bit irrelevant if fans are not aware of the various fundraising schemes - better to inform and publicise, not wait for fans to ask.

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General Discussion / Re: F OT L open evening
« on: August 19, 2021, 02:11:12 PM »
Good to see the FOTL posting on here and glad there is now an open meeting in the diary.  Griss, whilst I think we all appreciate there is a new committee, hopefully some of you will have been on committees previously so will have some idea of how organisations operate and events are run?

One main question springs to mind when reading the posts - why are you fundraising and where do the committee envisage those funds being directed?

Also in the meantime will there be a FOTL presence in the ground (not being distracted by selling programmes before the game) promoting the fundraising that is ongoing such as the 12th Man and the Hundred club?

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General Discussion / Season preview
« on: August 18, 2021, 05:42:13 PM »
Thoughts from a Dagenham & Redbridge fan who does a season preview every year, as we are still 'new' and last year could hardly be described as normal thought this might interest a few

https://leewilsonfootball.blogspot.com/2021/08/the-vanarama-national-league-202122.html

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General Discussion / Re: Southend (21st August)
« on: August 18, 2021, 03:37:38 PM »
Good point re- Bowry, KES.

Can’t believe IC is happy going into a season this thin on players. I guess the lad Gascoigne goes into the mix as well

Have we got anyone out wide to collect those over hit crosses ?

To be fair to Gascoigne, he looked very lightweight when he got his chance last year and could probably do with a year playing senior football at a lower level (step 3?) regularly as opposed to getting the odd spot on the bench at Lynn, I would say the same for Fleming too but given the depth of the squad we probably can't afford one less body at present.

As for the over hit crosses, both full backs have found the net in pre-season so can we assume they will have a more advanced role this season?

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General Discussion / Re: Southend (21st August)
« on: August 18, 2021, 02:54:04 PM »
...What is the story with Alex Brown, injured, moved on ?

Potentially was on trial with Altrincham but I have just looked and he is not listed in their squad.  Also they have a current squad photo on their website unlike Lynn where you can play the 'who is still with us' game  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Southend (21st August)
« on: August 18, 2021, 01:53:40 PM »
So, just three days until the big kick-off (COVID permitting) and we can all get back to worrying about what happens for 90 minutes on that patch of grass at the Walks and (temporarily) forget about everything else at the club and maybe the world in general.

In the absence of any news coming out of the club, we have to assume Culverhouse will be limited to the squad he has had during pre-season plus the recent addition of Rowley from Chesterfield.  Not sure where we are on the injury front after Alfreton but assuming everyone (bar Jones) is fit do we think he will go for 3 or 4 at the back and how many of Dilly's nipsters should he pick?

Personally I would go for:
                Jones
   McFadden, Fernandez, Bird
Barrows, Coleman, Sundire, Denton
                  King
         Omotayo, Morias

leaving a bench of Fleming, Bowry, Clunan, Rowley, Gyasi

To be fair, I have no idea as to which two from three of the new centre halves are better / are more likely to form a partnership and we do still look short of a forward on the bench.  My main hope for the season is that we can somehow get back to playing some of the football that IC encouraged at steps 3 and 2 but we got so far away from last season due to a mix of not replacing  players who couldn't handle the step up and recruiting players who didn't fit that pattern, hopefully the off season will have gone some way to addressing both issues but the squad does look paper thin

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General Discussion / Re: LN's on new signing
« on: August 16, 2021, 04:50:34 PM »
Shame that a potential loanee signing for Southend and Joe Taylor doing well at Wroxham (which is to be welcomed) have overshadowed the arrival of Joe Rowley to the Walks.  Comments on a national forum seem to echo those from the guy from the Derbyshire Times - basically no 10 is his best (maybe only) position and he now needs to get his head down and work to fulfill the promise he showed as a teenager. 

I guess much will depend on King's fitness as he is the current holder of the no 10 shirt but pleased we have signed some necessary cover in that area.  If there is only to be one remaining signing then hopefully that will be cover up front but the bench still looks pretty light to me and we again don't seem to be anywhere near as active in the PL / EFL loan market as other NL sides.

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General Discussion / Re: FOTL part 2.
« on: August 12, 2021, 05:27:16 PM »
Started to type my reply to Malcolm and then thought it was a bit off topic for Southend fans to have to go through

The gentleman who was going to fix the online payments has resigned so Iam back to square one on that one but someone will step forward and help get it sorted,so we need a new secretary that can help.Thanks for the plug B&G and you are so right the more fans that join the Surporters club the sooner we can move forward

Malcolm, any chance of setting a date for the FOTL open meeting (ideally pretty soon after the first home game so it can be advertised at the game) as I think until you have that you are in danger of raising (possibly false) expectations about what the FOTL is and isn't going to be doing as an organisation.

Appreciate you are still an evolving committee but are you able to put some names to roles for us?

Also are any of the previous fundraising schemes going to be running for the 2021-22 season ie 12th man?

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General Discussion / Re: Season ticket
« on: August 12, 2021, 05:21:38 PM »
Where were the programs sold at 15 pounds

On the club's website, just found this email confirmation from last year.

Please quote this in any future correspondence regarding this booking.If you have ordered tickets, they will be delivered in a separate email. This is your order confirmation.

Item   Type   Value
Yeovil Programme   Purchase £15.00
Sub Total   1 item(s)   £15.00

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