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General Discussion / Re: Academy the way forward
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:21:44 PM »
Colin, yes it is good to see local youngsters being given the opportunity although I would question how many there actually are (ever were) that are of suitable standard as there have been a fair number of lads who have come and gone over the years, as is always likely to be the case as young players with 'potential' find their level.

What we have seemed able to do since IC's arrival is attract those who didn't quite make it first time - King, Norman being the obvious two successes and could probably include Smith (and now Fleming) in that bracket and also the 'local lad' who just needs a bit more time to develop - FBT, Carey.  Yes, Norwich will always be able to attract the pick of the local talent but we do now seem to be better at picking up those that don't quite make it but are still capable of playing at a good standard, personally I would like to have seen Alfie Payne also given the opportunity at Lynn next season but all seems pretty quiet on that front.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 21, 2020, 05:28:03 PM »
Fleming could be a useful addition....a terrier in defence or midfield.

Yes, and still young enough to 'bring on'.  Pleased the signing announcement was for a position that we need to fill, would still like to see an experienced centre half joining, particularly if we go with the young lad in goal, but will IC now think he has enough cover with Burrows and Fleming?  Squad must be nearly near there now, 18 on the list (without Luke Johnson who was named as a 'retained' player) and can't imagine we will end up with many more, still look a little light in midfield for me

GK - Mair, Street
Full backs - Jones, Burrows, Brown
Centre halves - Smith, McAuley, Fleming (personally think Burrows is a better CH than full back)
Central Midfield - Clunan, Richards
Attacking Midfield - Henderson, Carey, Kelly, Hawkins
Forwards - Marriott, Gash, Loza, Southwell

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 21, 2020, 01:15:25 PM »
Word coming out of Carrow Road, Simon Power likely to return to The Walks on loan

Appreciate I am in the minority (possibly a very small minority) but I would rather not see Power back at the Walks.  Nothing against the lad personally nor do I doubt his ability, I just don't think he was a good fit for us in football terms.  IC has consistently put out good footballing sides and very rarely has he played with an out-and-out winger and I think we will have even less scope for a 'luxury' player next season - yes his pace may well cause problems but at what cost to the shape and structure of the team?

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 17, 2020, 02:36:34 PM »
My main gripe is not that the prices have increased, but its the lack of a concession price for the centre seated area, especially for my 6 year old grandson who has been coming with me off and on for the last couple of seasons.

Appreciate we can all look at pricing from a personal perspective (good for me who can buy my ticket 7 days in advance and only see a £2 increase) but realistically there are not that many yellow seats and if the club can maximise it's income from those seats then I guess that is something that it must do.  I haven't sat in the stands too often but I would have thought if you are going with a 6 year old you could still get a good enough view from a blue seat?

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 17, 2020, 02:12:33 PM »
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher

Graham said everyone. I think you will agree there's plenty of people who would opt for sustainable and affordable football, and the safety of the Club going forward.

Apologies, I hadn't picked up on the 'everyone' bit as I would certainly not count myself in that group, wanting to play higher than UCL - yes, wanting to play 'higher and higher' - no, not until such time as it was financially viable.  So yes, I would agree there are plenty who would opt for 'sustainable and affordable' although I fear that is a smaller minority than either of us would hope was the case.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 17, 2020, 01:54:25 PM »
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher

Sorry Graham, but I really don't know where you get that idea from. Whereas everyone enjoys watching a successful team, I believe the majority of supporters would opt for a level that is sustainable and affordable for both the Club and the Supporters.

However, differing opinions is one of the things that make like interesting.   :scarf:

I think I am nearer Graham's view.  Given the fact that step 2 is probably living 'beyond way our means' currently without a sizable injection (NOT INVESTMENT) by SC every season, we still had plenty on the forum over Christmas looking for the squad to be strengthened for a promotion push in the new year. 

I appreciate that the forum may not be indicative of the supporter base as a whole but when you look at take up for things like 50/50, 12th man, ground squares and the pitch cover collection(s) its pretty clear that the existing supporters are either unable or unwilling to back the club financially to the necessary degree for the level that IC's squad have attained.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 16, 2020, 04:33:43 PM »
Thanks Mallard Indeed we can decide and of course we don't yet have the support of TV payments or large scale commercial support so we can't easily compare like with like but these are the season ticket prices for 19/20 for some Premier League teams

Sheffield Utd £402 Everton £420 Leicester £365 and West Ham £320

As you say, not comparing like with like.  Looking at figures for 17/18 (found in the Guardian online), Leicester match gate receipts account for 8.5% of income, Everton 8.1%, Sheffield Utd not in figures and West Ham changed stadiums that year, but basically adding (or subtracting) £100 from a season ticket isn't going to have a material impact on their total revenue as PL teams are run on TV money, ticket prices are basically whatever someone thinks will fill stadiums so that they have a decent backdrop for the cameras.

At non-league level (even National League where there is a TV deal in place) I would expect matchday revenue to still form a massive proportion of total income so basically the club has little option to 'get what it can' from supporters.  I also think we should stop thinking there are queues of companies out there just waiting to be asked to sponsor the club, particularly in a post-COVID commercial world.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 16, 2020, 03:09:54 PM »
Linnet, there are concession season tickets for the side seating (but not the centre block - yellow seats?) at £380.

So just to rework your maths, this represents a 33% increase (after accounting for the extra games) on the £260 that was the price for Southern League football when we were watching the likes of Royston, Needham Market and St Ives whereas this season coming we will be up against sides who are almost all full-time, hardly comparable?

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 16, 2020, 01:38:31 PM »
With Tom Ward deciding to leave for new pastures I wonder whether this will open the door for Ryan Fryatt to return ?

I think we need to be setting our sights a bit higher than looking at 'what we had' and I would be happier to see someone come in and challenge Smith and McAuley to up their game for a place alongside the new lad in the starting line up.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 16, 2020, 01:33:49 PM »
Well I wonít be getting a season ticket this year. Thatís considerably higher than most league teams.

Was anticipating low £300ís for a seat, not £420.

LL, really unsure how you would get to 'low £300s' for a seated season ticket - £345 equates to £15 per game which would price a seat at £2 less than standing in a league below last year - that is one hell of a discount for a season ticket imo.  Just looked at the Peterborough site and looks like £349 standing, £439 seated but I think they are still in their 'discounted' period.

Since reformation we have had owners who have consistently valued the product at the Walks at the 'top end' of most fans expectations but, certainly under the current owner, we have had to rely on benefactor loans to financially dope our way through the season so something, somewhere doesn't add up.  Personally, I was expecting £20 for standing based on £17 last season at a lower level and the introduction of the Earlybird discount makes buying match-to-match a relatively easy decision.

For those who still want a season ticket, maybe the Trust GDF raffle is the way to go and even if you don't win at least the money will go to developing the Walks

General Discussion / Re: Win a 2020/2021 Season Ticket for The Walks
« on: July 08, 2020, 01:29:34 PM »
Great initiative from the Trust and pleased to see the GDF back at the top of the posts on the forum. 

SC did briefly cover season tickets at the end of a recent podcast - basically they will be going up and going up by quite a bit, particularly for those who took advantage of buying last years season ticket at 'Southern League' prices and with extra games and a higher standard I think most would expect to see some increase so maybe worth a flutter for those who want to support the GDF.

Mallard, I think until such time as the ground grading inspector produces a definitive list of required upgrades we should just accept that the Trust is raising money for GROUND DEVELOPMENT, whatever that may eventually entail.  I suppose you could argue that any donation will eventually go into the KLTFC pot but the mechanics the Trust has put in place it has done everything to ensure money raised for this specific cause will go in that direction and for now all funds will be in a separate bank account, split off from the main Trust account and then, based on previous experience, only handed over to the club for a specific project.

General Discussion / Re: Club and Community Football.
« on: July 04, 2020, 01:53:40 PM »
Another bridge well and truly burnt, although it wasn't that solid before SC put a match to it with the release of that statement.  There is usually blame on both sides when things get to this stage but SC does seem particularly good at turning a disagreement into a situation that looks completely irreparable whilst he remains at the club.

Whether some of those with SC's ear have tried to steer him to a different course, possibly, but I don't get the impression that he is easily turned so maybe they are just 'picking their battles' so I wouldn't direct too much negativity in their direction and certainly wouldn't expect to hear from them as don't see what would be gained at all.

General Discussion / Re: Jamar Loza
« on: July 03, 2020, 02:52:21 PM »
DR65, 'proven' goalscorers at step 1 won't come cheap so not sure where the money would come from?

K80, of that list I didn't understand retaining Hawkins (2 starts this season at step 2 should tell its own story) and assume we offered Southwell a multi year deal which looked like desperation at the time and even more so now that we will be playing in step 1 next year - Halifax let him go for a reason.  I admit I was proved wrong with Henderson as I didn't think we could fit him into the starting 11 at step 2 but he and the other lads in midfield generally stepped up to allow him to continue to do what he did so well at step 3, whether that can apply in step 1, I have my doubts but happy to be proved wrong again.

Given that the model under IC has been quality over quantity, if Marriott does sign I think that may be it in terms of attacking options (I think IC thinks of Kelly as an attacker as much as a midfielder).  Still think right back and central midfield are more pressing areas.

General Discussion / Re: Jamar Loza
« on: July 03, 2020, 01:14:31 PM »
Looks a good signing although slight reservations when he talks about now being a winger more than a central player, generally I think IC has had more success when his side has been set up without a dedicated winger.  Wonder if this seals Marriott's fate or whether this is still enough in the budget to keep him too?

General Discussion / Re: Wigan
« on: July 02, 2020, 01:09:55 PM »
Mallard, can you keep the gags to the 'Next seasons squad' thread please?

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