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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 03:26:42 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IDBNqwIVU&feature=share
Watch in slow motion from about 4.50 onwards.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 03:24:01 PM »
We will have to disagree on that one...a foul all day long for me
So are you telling me that you can't see Henderson clip his own ankles? This isn't a question of a difference of opinion the facts are there for all to see.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:58:38 PM »
I've looked at the freeze frame and slow-mo. Henderson clips his own heels hence the yellow for simulation.

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General Discussion / Re: If the season finishes early.......
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:36:57 PM »
If the Premier League relegate clubs without all fixtures being played they could leave themselves open to all kinds of legal issues.  At that level relegation is massive cash negative.   So could well understand that if they canít finish the season they will declare it null & void.  As a Norwich follower I wouldnít be unhappy with that.

However that could have the knock on affect right the way through.  Can see arguments for and against declaring the season null & void.
Fair point

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:32:18 PM »
Still looks a foul to me but no pen. First contact was in the D, so no pen, but an illegal tackle denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity. The fact the ball was to the left of Hendo and the defender came in from the right side means it can't possibly be a fair shoulder to shoulder.. should have been a free kick and a red card IMO.....at no time is the defender looking to get to or make contact with the ball...just contact with Hendo
The ball wasn't to the left it was directly in front of them. Simple foot race that Henderson realised he was going to lose and if you look carefully you'll notice that he clips his own ankles: a classic footballer ploy. You can't blame him for trying but the booking was deserved.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:23:33 PM »
Mike, how far behind the incident would you say he was when the coming together happened. ?  Two players lying on the floor in the penalty area.  He had to give something.  He was guessing at incidents.   Right or wrong on the pen, he was poor all afternoon.   

Having said all that the ref didnít miss 4/5 guilt edge chances.
The ref was close enough for a good view to make the right decision. I'm not defending his other decisions but it's very easy to get caught up in a lynch- mob mentality during a game.
We all got that penalty decision wrong yesterday, except for the ref. The need for scapegoats is very powerful in these circumstances but credit where credit is due.

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General Discussion / Re: If the season finishes early.......
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:14:07 PM »
Have to agree with B&G on this one. Option 3 the fairest.  You can't relegate sides with approx. 10 games each left to play.
At least you've given a reason and your point is a fair one. Could you argue that depriving teams at the top of not being promoted is a bit like relegating them from the division that they were likely to be in. Isn't their loss as great as the loss of a relegated team?

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 02:06:53 PM »
The referee i use the term lightly did not have a video to watch. The first feeling for all of us was penalty. The only person who did not was the idiot. If he got it right would be obe hell if a referee which he blatantly wasn't
But if the referee made the correct decision (and he did) when not being in an ideal position that's actually to his credit. I thought it was a penalty yesterday but the ref was the best placed to see the situation yesterday and he got it right. Obviously, I'm disappointed that it wasn't a pen and yesterday's result was miserable but I've looked at the evidence several times and have no doubt that the ref got that decision right. I realise that this won't be a popular view but sometimes you just gotta hold your hand up and admit you got it wrong.

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General Discussion / Re: If the season finishes early.......
« on: March 15, 2020, 01:44:15 PM »
Curious that B & G won't explain why he thinks option 3 is the fairest. I've just been accused of being a Guiseley supporter because based on new video evidence I think the ref got it right with the Henderson penalty. The same logic would suggest  B & G is anti-Lynn unless he can justify his belief that option 3 is the fairest!

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 01:38:57 PM »
So speaks a Guisley supporter you must be the only person in the ground who didn't think that was a penalty. Oh and rhat idiot with the whistle
Have you watched the video? I'll think you'll find the facts don't agree with your feelings.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 12:02:46 PM »
Henderson goes over far too easily. You can see that the Guiseley player is going to get to the ball first and at that moment Henderson moves in towards the player and then goes to ground as though shoved. No foul; Henderson goes over dramatically= no pen and booking for simulation. Fair and reasonable decisions from the ref.

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General Discussion / Re: If the season finishes early.......
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:47:33 AM »
.......3 options as far as I can see:

1) The positions stand as they are today.

2) Decided on points v games played.

3) All leagues for 2019/20 are null and void.


Obviously option 2 would Favour the Linnets.

Imo, as I think its the most fair option overall, 'll go for option 3.
Why do think that number 3 is the fairest?
I would still like to know why B & G thinks that option 3 is the fairest. I'm sure I'm not alone.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:39:36 AM »
Jack Beeton's video shows a much clearer angle. A freeze frame by it's very nature won't be able to evidence a push.

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General Discussion / Re: Guiseley
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:33:24 AM »
It wasn't shoulder in the back. I used to ref, albeit no higher than Anglian Combination but having now seen it from a different angle, firmly believe he made the correction decision.

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General Discussion / Re: If the season finishes early.......
« on: March 15, 2020, 11:30:40 AM »
.......3 options as far as I can see:

1) The positions stand as they are today.

2) Decided on points v games played.

3) All leagues for 2019/20 are null and void.


Obviously option 2 would Favour the Linnets.

Imo, as I think its the most fair option overall, 'll go for option 3.
Why do think that number 3 is the fairest?

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