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General Discussion / Re: Champions
« on: July 12, 2020, 12:45:56 PM »
With National League clubs like Solihull and Stockport reportedly throwing a lot of money into a promotion push this coming season, will the same ideas of resetís etc also apply at our level.

Should clubs be sustainable and not spend money they are not generating ?

Stockport are a very well run club, so won't be pushing themselves beyond their finanical means. But because of their fans and their running, they will have a substantial pot to spend. They're basically a football league club in awaiting, which puts into perspective the level Lynn are now at.

General Discussion / Re: Jamar Loza
« on: July 03, 2020, 03:35:55 PM »
The idea of a proven goalscorer isn't viable IMO, fitting a player into a system and giving them confidence can turn someone who's sparse on goals, into a goalscorer, and vice versa. Marriott joined having struggled to score level higher, then when Lynn went up, he proved he could easily score at that level. Southwell we've not seen much of, but few seasons ago he proved he could score at Step 2, so could go same way and score at Step 1 with confidence inserted into him, and a sytem that gets him chances.

Scott Quigley was at Halifax in 18-19, returned poor numbers, following season ended up top goalscorer as he helped Barrow to promotion.

General Discussion / Re: Next season start date
« on: June 21, 2020, 04:18:37 PM »
France will be playing in front of fans I think soon, Germany I'd be confident will be doing that come new season, and I'd suspect UEFA having put the UCL in Portugal will be hoping that will be infront of fans too. If that happens, I can see UK following suit, and fans back in come September.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 19, 2020, 08:49:48 AM »
If ever there was a time, it's now, let all fund  raising sections within the club start pulling together, let's not make this a one season wonder, come on, love each other, 1 league away from the football league.

I agree, but not in the sense of looking for promtion. Now is the time for everyone, fans and local businesses, to back King's Lynn because with the management team they've got and players, they can establish themselves as a National League club.

Everyone needs to look long term, and if King's Lynn spend say 3 years floating 10th-18th in the National League, that would absolutely amazing. Because you have to remember 1) where the club has come from, and 2) who they're competing with. A quick rise and you need establishing so attendances become consistently stable at a certain number. You are also competing against loads of ex football league clubs, whom will have bigger resources and better catchment areas.

General Discussion / Re: Next season
« on: June 12, 2020, 03:39:06 PM »
Whichever way you look at it - One League (EFL 1 / EFL 2 - National - NL North - NL South) will be playing next Season 1 x Team light (Bury FC Ejected from EFL 1).

Unless FA decide that 2020-21 will again be played with a Team light or find a "Team" out-of-the-hat. Bury FC have applied to FA to go into National League (Step 1) but that would put the cat-amongst-the -pigeons. Better solution is Bury FC go into NL (North) and York go Up.

Think the logical decision is one of Gloucester/Brackley will move to NLS again, and Bury FC will go into North.

General Discussion / Re: Next season
« on: June 12, 2020, 10:57:55 AM »
Counting chickens before they've hatched..... could still end up null and void. Hopefully a special resolution can be passed to allow York and Havant to be promoted without play offs.

0% chance of that happening. Can't promote with that, so Barrow would miss out and any sides in the play offs. They need 17 votes, NL get 24, N/S get 4 each. In NL alone, they'll comfortable hit that target because I could only see at worse Chorley/Stockport and maybe another side being against it.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 11, 2020, 02:32:53 PM »
Either way, Lynn will be going up as Champions.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 09, 2020, 02:11:28 PM »
Think it's safe to say that the Champagne can be put on ice, ready to open  :cup2:

General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 06, 2020, 10:23:50 AM »
Just had a listen to some of Mr Cleeves latest podcasts.

In a previous podcast he stated the players wages would be around 20-30% less next season.  Now he is saying the fans need to raise 50k to keep Adam Marriott at the club.

Anyone care to try and shed any light on that ?

Giving his exploits last season, I would say he could easily get £800 - £1k pw next season at a Step 1 club, which would be around the £50k+ mark.

Question in response would be, is it worth matching close to that to keep him? Or spend it on likely two players?

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: June 01, 2020, 02:20:32 PM »
Ward is the one that has struck me as odd, with Fryatt gone. Fryatt is clearly the better player, makes me wonder if Fryatt wanted to go elsewhere, or if his injury has permanently crocked him. Either would be a shame for such a long-serving player...

Game of opinions LL, for me I would have Ward well above Fryatt but appreciate other people look for different qualities.  Personally I think Fryatt was a good defender at step 3 but struggled stepping up to NLN, Ward certainly isn't a nailed on step 2 player but more capable of holding a place in the squad, if we move up to NL then I would worry but same could be said of others in that retained list.

If club did go up and were able to get Marriott on a new deal, adding 2-3 players and the squad would be strong enough to compete in NL IMO. They showed against Ebbsfleet and Dover that the gap to those sides isn't much (if anything at all), so adding a couple of strong players for that level and there's no reason why Lynn couldn't stay up (if they were promoted), which would be a huge achievement for the club.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: May 23, 2020, 02:11:42 PM »
Nothing against any of the lads who have been signed but given that it looks like there may be a fair bit of upheaval further up the pyramid and we don't know when next season will start, or what league we will be in.

I think giving the stance what EFL are going with (PPG and Promotion/Relegation), I'm 99% confident that King's Lynn will be promoted as Champions on PPG. Whether there's a non league season or not is a different question, but giving the culture secretary wants the amateur game going, the non league will be good to go too. Just comes down to clubs voting if they want to play behind closed doors if fans are not viable for rest of the year.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 15, 2020, 03:04:00 PM »
Since National League are waiting on EFL, before deciding what they'll do themselves, them announcing a weight PPG to determine league position then play offs behind closed doors could be big (if it's approved).

National League I assume could then go weighted points too (if clubs approve) and either promote top 2, or do play offs. Think top 2 promoted would please everyone and get the season concluded. Not sure how league table would be if it was weighted points in North, because Lynn have more away games left then York but have a lesser PPG away.

Edit: I read it wrong. No-one is coming down from EFL, so will be just one up from National League. I think that could end anyone being promoted from North/South...

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 05, 2020, 09:24:17 AM »
As I've seen with some posts on here, football won't be played next season in Non-League IMO. Social Distancing measures will be in place for some time, and it'll mean football played behind closed doors if it's to resume. Viable for Premier League, 50/50 in the EFL, impossible in the Non-League game.

PPG should be used to determine promotions/relegation. Barrow promoted to EFL to replace Bury spot and no-one relegated from L2. Chorley relegated from National League because they were almost down anyway, with Wealdstone and King's Lynn promoted based on PPG. You then mothball the leagues till the start of 21-22 season, where fingers crossed things will be able to resume with crowds.

This season coming, restructure everything in non league regionally to like counties. So if Non-League clubs want to play behind closed door games (possibly even have fans in ground in 2021 if measures allow for it then), they can against other local clubs. Not sure where King's Lynn would go, i.e. towards Wisbech - March and P'Boro way for Non Leagues, or East towards Dereham/Wroxham etc. Because again, there may be a limit on travel distance so can't be going to far. Just that way, certain Non-League clubs can still tick over playing wise if they wish to do so, and others who don't want to can sit out knowing they won't lose their spot. You will also have players that live far away from their current club so won't be able to play, but can play for another club (if not under contract). Essentially an extended friendly competition.

General Discussion / Re: Step 5 and 6 season over
« on: March 25, 2020, 08:50:42 AM »
PPG average they'll go on will be my money.

General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 17, 2020, 02:35:28 PM »
Hopefully King's Lynn avoid it, but there'll be a number of non-league clubs that will fold from this. Basically going to lose 2 months income whilst still paying overheads, and if they're already in debt and paying off debts, this could be what tips them over the edge unless everything is frozen by the government for say 6 months.

Season doesn't start till say late 2020, those overheads will still be costly at this level if a club has a number of players on contracts to end of 2021 at least. Unprecedented times this, and could end up having wide scale long term impacts on football at this level.

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