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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 28, 2020, 10:14:50 PM »
Stephen Cleeve wanted donations, loans are all very well but he has  to pay them back!
The aims of the Trust are to "to purchase a stakeholding in the club" not be sole owner.
No, I don't think the Trust could not leap in and save the club but as part of a consortium  they might achieve something, although I doubt if any consortium would want to put in the kind of money Stephen Cleeve appears to doing.

The aim of the business is to facilitate and provide the structure for an affordable, sustainable and enterprising football club in Kingís Lynn.  It will also invite the supporters, the local business fraternity and the wider community of Kingís Lynn and West Norfolk to be stakeholders in the process.  In forming this community based not-for-profit model, the marketing potential would be more lucrative. In order to comply with Football League rules, a Limited Company (Ltd Co) will be formed with a £100,000 share capital.  Fifty percent of the shares (£50,000) will be owned by the Trust, and the other 50% will be offered to ideally another ten investors each owning 5% of the shares (£5,000 each).  These other investors would be known as vice-presidents of the Ltd Co.  A management board would then be formed and would be made up of 5 Trust Directors, 5 Vice-presidents. This model would allow for supporter representation in the running of the football club, and would facilitate the general principles of a Supporterí Trust.  The Trust would continue to operate but would have a more direct role in representing its members by having part ownership of the Football Club. An organisational chart can be found at Annex A.  Financial projections can be found at Annex B.  It must be noted that these figures are estimated and obviously would be subject to change according to arising situations. 

Its all there in the Trust Business Plan 2015. If people did a bit of research life could be so much easier.   :cheers:


Just Mr Cleeve put his spin on the proceedings and cried foul to the press before facts were known. As a trust member I feel that had the trust just given money with no security then it would be a breech of contract? My belief is that if the trust gives money to the club then it must own a stake,and that is the way the basis of the constitution works,anything other than that I could consult my solicitor? :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 28, 2020, 04:56:15 PM »
Firstly, I need to say that I am a fan of the Trust... it's ideals and what it aims to provide....
however, I am hugely grateful to SC and what has been achieved under his tenure. It seems to me that the rapid success on the field has in some ways disempowered the likes of the Trust and FolL......the sums involved now in terms of what is required to support a step1 or 2 side are massive in comparison to what the Trust for example can offer.........and at this stage is £60k likely to be enough to resurrect the club if it went under ?...however laudable the intent ?  If the answer to this is no, then is there a legitimate case for the Trust to reconsider its role ?


Or would the Trust actually up its game to match the events as Portsmouth FC Trust did?  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:43:17 PM »
Sleight of hand, in this hand I have whining about not accepting trust funds because I don't like their terms, whilst at the same time taking fan donations, and wallah in the other hand sneaks in a new player funded by myself?

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 09:59:21 PM »
Sounds like you want the club to flod


Of course he doesn't want it to flod,just a balanced view from someone taking no particular side and presenting the facts. :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 08:52:46 PM »
Very sensible post, there should be more co-operation between trust and FOTL,maybe when this is over then they can be seen to work together. I may just be one of the rare ones that is a trust member,a member of the FOTL,and I watch as many games as possible,and use the bar. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 02:46:15 PM »
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For sale,best offer towards club funds.
Perhaps you could use them to raise money for that pint that you still owe me Griss :cheers:

Ready for a pint when this crap is all over. :cheers:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 01:49:05 PM »
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For sale,best offer towards club funds.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 09:09:49 PM »
Another way to help in a small way would be to take up an idea that they are using at Boston to raise money for things at the new ground. They have a jam jar collection,people fill a jam jar with their change and when it is full it goes into the club to be counted and banked. I know it won't cure the problem but it may be  a way of contributing if you cannot donate online? :dontknow:

That would be the same jam jar collection you openly mocked on the Boston forum? Unbelievable!



It was in response to ridicule being heaped on Lynn fans raising money for pitch covers, taking it in context is is not so much mocking but a comparison in fund raising techniques. I will suggest all ways to raise cash,no matter how small it may seem. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 07:51:32 PM »
Another way to help in a small way would be to take up an idea that they are using at Boston to raise money for things at the new ground. They have a jam jar collection,people fill a jam jar with their change and when it is full it goes into the club to be counted and banked. I know it won't cure the problem but it may be  a way of contributing if you cannot donate online? :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 24, 2020, 10:50:40 PM »
How much of a circle can this carry on going round? Has anyone actually emailed the trust to see what their position is,or emailed the club? :dontknow:

Old Loopy was a lot better than Stan. :laughcry: Grissles.

At least loopy joined the Trust for a little while and actually made comments based on his experience? :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 24, 2020, 08:28:23 PM »
How much of a circle can this carry on going round? Has anyone actually emailed the trust to see what their position is,or emailed the club? :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 22, 2020, 09:06:17 PM »
This is a time of hardship for many people, including fans of our Football Club.   I have seen that the Chairman is more than willing to support the club through this crisis.  I have seen the fans are also prepared to suppprt the club through this crisis.    If we are truly all in this together letís hear from the Staff what they doing to support the Club through this crisis.

Just reading through the NLP this morning.  Aldershot. The staff there have all agreed to a reduction in their salaryís to support their Club.   

There is no I in Team so letís see all sides pulling together.
I agree that we should all pull together but I haven't heard much from the Blue & Gold Supporters' Trust. How are the Trust currently helping the club stay afloat?


Stan have you emailed the Trust to enquire if they would be doing anything? Did you get a reply? Or are you putting it on here just to knock the trust again? :banghead;
If they are doing anything then no doubt they'll keep us informed. I've not heard anything Griss have you?

Stan are you a member of the trust? If you are then as a member you will be able to enquire of the trust directors what is being done? Or are you just making useless unfounded accusations about the trust not caring, just to whip up anti trust feelings as usual! If there are any discussions between the club and the trust then they will be done behind closed doors as and when is practical,and if any monies pass from the trust to the club then the trust must be involved in the running of the club! If Mr Cleeve will allow the trust to have shares in the club then so be it,trust and club together. Take your obsession with slating the trust and actually put that energy into finding out the trust ethos,and read the constitution,they cannot just give away funds raised by members willy nilly, it is the law. Turn your hatred of the trust into fundraising and they wouldn't need the trust!

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 22, 2020, 07:05:52 PM »
This is a time of hardship for many people, including fans of our Football Club.   I have seen that the Chairman is more than willing to support the club through this crisis.  I have seen the fans are also prepared to suppprt the club through this crisis.    If we are truly all in this together letís hear from the Staff what they doing to support the Club through this crisis.

Just reading through the NLP this morning.  Aldershot. The staff there have all agreed to a reduction in their salaryís to support their Club.   

There is no I in Team so letís see all sides pulling together.
I agree that we should all pull together but I haven't heard much from the Blue & Gold Supporters' Trust. How are the Trust currently helping the club stay afloat?


Stan have you emailed the Trust to enquire if they would be doing anything? Did you get a reply? Or are you putting it on here just to knock the trust again? :banghead;

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General Discussion / Re: Club's quiz night.
« on: March 20, 2020, 11:15:51 PM »
Now cancelled I believe,along with the Black tie event. :glum:

Having to answering your own questions now Grissles.  Bad times indeed. Your followers must all be in isolation.


I remember the days when I had a following,where are they all now? :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

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