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General Discussion / Re: Home draw for the Linnets
« on: January 28, 2024, 01:25:16 PM »
Agree with Happy - Barrett was too good for our current team, and probably felt the manager knew the talk (the cliches) but not the walk (the game).  I donít see how AL can come up with anything for the next game, because only the players can, and we donít have the players of the type needed.  Sad indeed, but I think we could finish last.

No surprise there Dills  :laughcry: Barrett has, in my view 3 months to get himself fit and prove he's worth a contract with Widdrington at Aldershot or his full time football is over. Very telling that no other offers came in for him, despite his availability being touted......different class indeed.


I am hoping for a win at Gloucester next week ......and then a little run which might just pull us clear. Some will think me over optimistic, but I feel that's the way to be. Don't see the point in being so negative, when we know the squad is short and there's little that can be done about it currently. Typical of some on here to really go the full hog on negativity.........very helpful Dilly to predict that Stortford might overtake us.

I guess if we get a minor miracle and AL turns it around, you will be saying it's because he has had his Eureka moment and has now caught up with you, in his thinking.  :red card:

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General Discussion / Re: Hughes next to go?
« on: January 26, 2024, 03:37:05 PM »
Hughes may well have picked up a knock for all we know.

Managers really earn their corn recruiting and moulding a team and getting in the characters that fit their preferred set up and way of playing. When a manager takes over mid season it can be very hit and miss. TW failed to keep Lynn up, IC struggled at Kettering and then with Boston the year after. It's now getting desperate, so new players and formations are being played with to try and find a winning formula.

One things for sure, the NLN is a tough old league. The variety in the quality of surfaces to play on, the poor climate, the physicality and streetwise-ness of sides, long travel distances all make playing pretty football redundant. You have to play effective football. IC's side were struggling when Covid came and would not have remained in contention had the season played out through heavy Winter pitches. So I can see why AL keeps harping on about work rate......work rate combined with experience, doing the ugly side well and being clinical in both boxes is what gets results. Currently Lynn have the work rate, but seem to lack the rest. Margetts will help in one box, if he can get some supply, but losing Crowther has really exposed our own box. Last season we had 2 speedy, competent wing backs, Crowther, Coulson was a year younger and there was a defensive midfielder just in front of them. Finding a way, anyway, to be effective and get some wins, is currently all that matters.


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General Discussion / Re: Barrett goes
« on: January 23, 2024, 11:28:11 AM »
Can only think he has gone on a free because it was perhaps getting toxic and affecting the squad. BUT what a terrible bit of business financially. I mean, honestly, does any other NLN club appear so naive on a regular basis......Taylor, Stokes, the ridiculous situation with Olly Scott and now Barrett. It looks like Lynn are out manoeuvred at every turn and it costs them big time. Just looking at the last two, I believe offers were made earlier in the piece, Lynn turn them down, fail to negotiate further and end up with diddly squit. Appears laughable...yes we are not party to all the info, but when I see talented people apparently being given away, even when their heart is no longer with Lynn, I have little sympathy when the club has financial issues. Tommy must be having one huge laugh......probably will need stitches for the splits in his sides.

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General Discussion / Re: Not looking good.
« on: January 22, 2024, 11:39:02 AM »
Personally, I am not really bothered about the communication issues for the rest of the season, as long as the results are good enough to keep the club in the NLN. I am sure a top down review of what goes on at the club will be necessary and be carried out before the start of next season........but get relegated and the whole structure is in jeopardy

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General Discussion / Re: Not looking good.
« on: January 21, 2024, 12:36:54 PM »
For me, new investment or not, nothing will fundamentally change as long as Mr Cleeve remains at the helm. We are there to pay up and to accept what is offered, without question. Human mushrooms, customers?


Quite right....that's the pay off under the current regime.....decent level of funding/step 2 football...but little fan info.As you say , it probably won't change.....so why moan.....SC could be around in some form at the club, for a good while yet.

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General Discussion / Re: Important point on the road.
« on: January 21, 2024, 12:33:44 PM »
Think we need 6 points Tony.....and with the way everybody is beating everyone else, probably  8/9 wins including the next two matches to be safe at the season end.

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General Discussion / Re: New years day defeat for Linnets.
« on: January 03, 2024, 01:20:42 PM »
To be honest, Lynn are in a real scrap and all that matters at the moment is points on the board. MH had 8 points from 10 and AL has 18 from 16. People were quick to label MH as out of his depth......as soon as the Kidderminster game. By that stage of the season, I felt Lynn were shot anyway, after a long hard chase in second place. They then came up against a team on a winning runand a lively Ashley Hemmings and the rest is history. I personally doubt that if TW had stayed, we would have beaten Harriers at that stage of the season.


We never did hear the full story of why TW left. My own thoughts are that he had probably wanted to strengthen the squad on the run in , funds were running out and he sensed the following season could be a downhill slide.
People blame MH for poor recruitment.......but did he have full control over those that came in..........bearing in mind we have the current manager wasting a couple of weeks "securing " a top forward and then not being able to get it over the line.Given  that most managers stand or fall according to "their" recruitment , it's difficult, I feel, to rationally assess any of their performances under the current regime.

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General Discussion / Re: The Future
« on: December 27, 2023, 12:00:45 PM »
First thing first....this chairman has brought previously the best memories of my 64 year old lifetime
Watching the linnets 🫴🫴  credit where credit is due..BUT today was the catalyst for a complete nightmare on and off the pitch..ignore scunthorpe, this is the huge fixture in this clubs season..
Yet from the turnstile/ground atmosphere/catering & then the performance on the pitch, I felt this is the end for all involved at the club ...ž have for a long period defended Mr Cleeve but perhaps now is the time to vacate on every level....Toxic doesn't even come close🫡

From Bostons viewpoint:

http://www.bufc.drfox.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8452.0

Sadly, it is difficult to argue with much of that and to think that this was once labelled 'the beautiful game!'. Without question the owner brought a higher level of football to the Walks than many supporters had previously enjoyed, yet it really was always just a matter of time before reality took over from fantasy. Unless you have very deep pockets you cannot alienate so many people at all levels before the Project implodes. This chain of events has also divided supporters (customers): some want success at almost any cost with the end product justifying the means, with others preferring to support a club built on solid foundations that lives within its means. I'm firmly in the latter group.


For me, it goes much deeper than that Rod. If you haven't already, just look at the posts on the Boston Forum highlighted above. The whole image and feel of the club is and for as long as I can remember, has been, all wrong.
Hostile, unwelcoming, rough and ready, not the place you would want to take family and kids etc etc This doesn't just emanate from the ownership down...there have been many different owners over the years, but the issues remain. How on earth you build a community club from where it is currently, I honestly don't know. Just imagine you are running a new club on limited income and staying within budget and you suddenly get hit with a £5k fine for unruly crowd behaviour and more on top for damage to the ground which just happened along the way. It feels to me that a massive change of culture and attitude both within the club and from outside is required.......whether that's possible in Kings Lynn....well history seems to be against it.

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General Discussion / Re: Lynn lose to Boston
« on: December 26, 2023, 09:38:41 PM »
Too many idiots in the ground today I wonder if they shout obscenities at the TV when they donít agree with whatís occurring. They are not real supporters and give the club a bad reputation and a probable hefty fine.


But that's nearly always the case when there's a big game. Has been happening for the last 60 years.......the Club never seem to stamp it out and the so called fans seem to think that it's ok to do it. As with so many off field aspects I find it really painful that the town and the club  just don't seem to have the combined will or nous to progress.

I am left with the conclusion, that the town isn't a footballing town and doesn't deserve a football club. If the huge efforts of SC, IC and TW all end up in nothing more than the club collapsing, at least we have the memories of a great journey and some fantastic football over the last 6/7 years. I doubt that anyone could actually pull this club up to the EFL.......there are just too many counter productive aspects going on. I personally feel enough is enough. If SC can't make it work financially over the next month, then I thank him for all that he achieved on the field through his energy, management recruitment and investment and respectfully suggest the club is wound up for good. Pull the shutters up, bulldoze the ground and put up some affordable homes......all those that have used the club as a means of letting of vitriol will have to take it somewhere else....honestly some aspects of the Club seem to me to be like  a nagging wound that doesn't want to heal. Enough is enough.

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General Discussion / Re: Lynn FC website
« on: December 21, 2023, 11:13:13 AM »
Of course the other possible scenario is that the deal has been done.....the month's wages paid up front, the player has trained all week at The Walks and will be announced when the team sheet arrives, to throw a bit of a curve ball to the opposition at the start of the match...seems something that happens these days

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General Discussion / Re: Lynn FC website
« on: December 20, 2023, 12:48:09 PM »
Seems to have gone quiet...presumably if you let it be known you perhaps can't afford wages for January, then loaning someone for even for one month from mid December could be problematic

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General Discussion / Re: The Future
« on: December 17, 2023, 02:41:01 PM »
Surely Clubs are Community based or they are not?  :dontknow:

Nothing in between is there?

If that's the case, the next Phoenix Club has the choice of something along the lines of what we have now (if anyone is even interested), or something they can really get behind and have a real involvement in. A Club that's truly at the heart of the community.

Funding a competitive side?

Play at the highest level the club can afford to play at by the income it generates from gates and commercial activity. That way the supporters are getting exactly what they are prepared to contribute to the Club (financially and otherwise). Nothing more, nothing less.

The Club should then find its own level.



I am not sure it's quite as simple as that in reality.

Historically fans in Lynn turn up to watch a winning, successful side.

Let's say that Lynn's natural level for the first few years is Thurlow Nunn Premier or one tier above. Lynn's side wins promotion, but it is declined as it's a step too far and the club can't afford it. Same happens next season. Is everyone happy to still come along and support, even though there is no likelihood of progression ? It requires a big change in psyche for some folk.

If SC 's tenure does come to an end in 2024 and no one else takes the club on, then I would prefer to see a Community based club emerge........just seems to me that it will have lots of things that need to be ironed out, so that members of the public know what they are signing up to in terms of expectations, club progression, limitations etc. Otherwise I can see lots of disharmony, creation of different factions etc.

I can't ever remember a time when there hasn't been huge dissatisfaction from some people, with whoever is running the club. Even with a Community based club, there will have to be a focal point/leader/spokesperson to deliver the votes on issues and offer explanations to the public and he or she will need broad shoulders.

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General Discussion / Re: The Future
« on: December 17, 2023, 12:33:14 PM »
Well Mall, firstly I hope a way out can be found.....so much energy has gone into the last 4/5 years.

If it doesn't happen and the club folds step 4/5 is probably the highest the club can afford to be. I think your old figures for Setch, don't really apply any more.....we have had Covid and a cost of living crisis since then.....so probably 2/2.5 times that figure required to stand still at step 4, I would guess.

I think people need to think very carefully about what they wish for. Tony, building on the point you raise, I don't believe at this juncture ie if the club folded tomorrow, that there is enough support in the Community, to make a Community run Club at even step 4 work. Many people like to hark back to times gone by on here, but many of us are close to or at retirement age and it needs a lot of young blood and young money to make things work...I am not sure where that will come from. King's Lynn is not a football town, like a Darlington for example....or even a Scarborough for that matter, when you compare attendances.


Fourteen years ago, it seemed time to get shot of the old ground. I-know there were plans in some quarters for the possibility of something at Saddlebow. Now that the Council is considering a 4g facility, maybe finally a Community Stadium can be built with grass pitches and 4g facility alongside, for use by both the general public and the club on match and training days.

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General Discussion / Re: LNís article
« on: December 16, 2023, 09:53:12 PM »
What follows are merely my own views of course.

Whilst one could mention a number of areas where the business model appears lacking, I also have considerable sympathy with SC, who has taken this club to a level not reached before.


The National League has been allowed to grow hugely, such that there is little difference in playing ability between League Two  and the NL and the wages paid in the NL often exceed those in L2. The gap now between NLN/S and the NL is now ridiculous and has spiralled out of control. There should be nothing wrong in Clubs wanting to be successful and gain promotion but promotion to the NL is a poisoned chalice. I am not sure how clubs promoted to the NL are expected to adjust. It is very noticeable that the 4 teams promoted last year occupy the bottom 4 spots in the NL...just above them are York and Dorking who were promoted the year before.A recent interview with the Fylde Chairman was telling, when he admitted that they hadn't fully understood how the NL had moved on in the last few years and that as a consequence they had recruited inadequately over the pre season and were now having to look at trying to strengthen the squad.

Rewind 2 years to Lynn's pre season recruitment whilst in the NL...........desperately trying to find players of the right calibre, whilst trying to stay in budget. Recruited Omotayo, Ponticelli, Bird et al. Very few, if any were NL standard, but it was still important to be full time and pay rel. big bucks, just to get them.. SC realised what a gulf it was between the leagues and how difficult it would be to get back, if relegated and felt it vital to try and stay in the NL.....hence the loan and appointing Widdrington.....but to no avail. One last throw of dice to get back up the following season, which narrowly failed............and now the money has started to run out and the Club is in a pickle.

Someone on here (apologies for not remembering who) suggested we were suffering from Hughes' poor recruitment. I would suggest we are still suffering from the NL recruitment with presumably high wages still being paid to some of those recruits, who are now struggling to perform at the NLN level.

In a way, SC's desire to get to EFL standard has been achieved by getting to the NL.....it is just that the landscape altered on the way. I personally feel that there has to be a much more even distribution of money , away from the NL to the lower leagues, if non league football is to survive in its current format.....the NL (and clubs therein )is way too powerful.


Money has become such an issue , that probably only one league higher than Thurlow Nunn, would be a financially safe level for a Club the current size of Lynn, if funded merely by football related income streams it might currently generate....any higher and the costs might be too much. Here's hoping we won't have to go there and some solution can be found to the current predicament.




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General Discussion / Re: TONIGHTS MATCH
« on: December 13, 2023, 06:47:59 PM »
I agree, I think we are coming to that point.

I would also just like to back track.

When Hughes was at the helm some suggested he was out of his depth and others are blaming the weak squad on him. What if he was very limited by finance on what he could bring in ? I can also imagine players weren't exactly queuing up to come to Norfolk, following the exodus that happened pre season.

Fast forward to now...is Adam Lakeland getting much more out of the squad......or finding it easy to bring players in ?

The way I see it is we lost 2 fine wing backs for this league and a player who was big for us in defence and attack in Gold...and we couldn't afford to replace any of them.


The squad has too many flashy forward players who look good on the ball but offer no end product.......all those that were on Gold's back and wanted a Ponticelli, Stephens pairing up front instead, are probably realising why Widdrington showed such faith in him.

Two of the central 3 have always lacked pace in Lynn colours.....in the past this has been plastered over by two capable wing backs and a blocker in front of them in the form of Theo...I thought Hughes acquired Oke for that role but so far Adam has used him very sparingly.


I am not sure, how much more Adam can squeeze out of the current squad...maybe just enough to survive relegation. However, with crowds dropping I do wonder if the club will make it till the end of the season.

Whatever must the shortfall be with crowds of 600?

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