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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 02, 2021, 08:40:01 AM »
I’m keen to hear all the positives that came out of last night’s meeting.
On twitter, Cleeve says reduced prices only apply to Grade B games, Grade A games are existing prices.
From Mr Hill’s posting I assumed all prices had been reduced!!

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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 02:43:08 PM »
Mr Hill, the facts are painful aren’t they.  I’m not so sure they are tantamount to slagging anyone off as you put it.  I’m just amazed how well you obviously think Cleeve is doing and your undying support.  It is to be commended and you should be very proud of what your doing.  In my view you are misguided but what the hell do I know.  I really really hope you make a difference.  Realistically I think your tenure will eventually turn to exasperation in the same way as others who have tried to proffer help.  One thing I can assure you, if you donate any of the funds raised in support of the incumbent owner it will be good money after bad.

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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 11:39:51 AM »
Mallard, baby steps are definitely not the answer. We need bloody great strides.  You and I both know the current situation is dire.  The business is insolvent with unmanageable debt.  Revenue is below expected and likely to fall even further during the winter months.  Going full time is a colossal drain on funds and coupled with ever increasing costs such as travelling, power etc., the financial future looks very bleak indeed.  My background is financial and I’ve seen this scenario played out many times and is somewhat prevalent with one man bands.  Their ego surpasses reality and they plough on regardless of what is going on around them, generally headlong into the abyss.  Instead of seeking help earlier when the business might have been salvageable, they don’t. They listen to no one. This in my opinion is where we are now.  It might be that Cleeve has something up his sleeve but I would be amazed if he managed to find another investor.  He has already said he would not put anymore funds in.  In my view, he cannot make further extortionate demands on the fans.  Maybe he has some fantastic solution he is going to enlighten you with tonight.  As I’ve said previously, optimism is a wonderful thing in the right circumstances. I’m not sure this is it.




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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 10:58:02 AM »
Mallard, I disagree.   You have to apportion blame so those who are to blame learn by their mistakes.  Those who are so arrogant that they think they are infallible are very dangerous people.  Recognising ones mistakes and making efforts to put things right is a trait to be desired.  Something lacking with a certain person in my opinion.

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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 10:02:59 AM »
Mallard, I wish I shared your optimism.  Investors in a sinking ship are very hard to come by especially when you consider Cleeve’s colourful background. Of course, I might be totally wrong and everything will be hunkydory after tonight.  I’m already getting excited, we should have a fantastic crowd next Tuesday night for sure!!!!   

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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 09:15:42 AM »
I can tell you now, tonight’s forum will be a complete and utter waste of time.  Of course fans are going to moan, gripe or criticise, call it what you will, because they are dissatisfied with way the club is run.  Cleeve has said in the past it’s his club and he likes to run it his way.  Do you honestly think he is going to take any notice of the fans now when hitherto he has ignored and alienated them in way only he could do. In any event, in my view it’s too little too late.  The writing is on the wall, I fear it’s when not if.
Read Gavin Caney’s article in today’s YOURS local paper; it’s a brilliant take on the current situation.

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General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: September 30, 2021, 06:52:40 AM »
“Fans forum” - what a joke, it will be a waste of time.  “Friends of the Linnets” - whilst I admire Mr Hill’s enthusiasm I cannot see his efforts helping the club significantly.  In my view, Cleeve has a total disconnect with the fans.  High admission prices, poor and disorganised catering facilities and no doubt COVID, coupled with the very poor results, have contributed to the low attendances.  I cannot see attendances improving in the coming winter months;  better results might help but not to the degree I think Cleeve envisages.  The new commercial manager I fear will have an uphill struggle.  Cleeve’s perception of the value to sponsors and advertisers of supporting the club is, in my view, excessive. 
Falling revenue, unmanageable debt, poor management and an owner with a history of failed businesses and dubious background puts this club, in my opinion, in an unsustainable position.   It may be the owner has the funds to continue supporting the club, but he has already said not.   This is a typical scenario, an owner following a self-indulgent, egotistical dream.  Never knowing when to give up, soldiering on until the inevitable sorry end. 



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General Discussion / Re: Dagenham at home
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:30:36 PM »
Replying to Gordon’s post.  I remember well, you and Kevin running the club shop etc. and running it as a proper supporters club should be run.  The “Friends of the Linnets” is in my view, farcical.  Hitherto it appears to have been run like a secret society.  I think supporters have now begun to realise that “investing” any money into the club is putting good money after bad.  The current owner has saddled the club with unmanageable debt.  In my view it is delusional to think that a small sum raised by a few supporters will make any difference. Using the fans as a cash cow has, I believe, failed already judging by the poor attendances of home supporters so far.  To use a phrase loved by the owner “kerching”, I think might well be exhausted- let me suggest another he might like to use “chickens coming home to roost”.

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General Discussion / Re: Alex Brown leaving
« on: September 16, 2021, 09:10:16 PM »
Neither!!  Can’t see it ever being repaid. Club is insolvent anyway and seems likely to go the same way as the current owner’s other past business ventures. Only my opinion of course.

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General Discussion / Re: Southend (21st August)
« on: August 24, 2021, 09:42:09 AM »
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  “Investing” money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, won’t even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyone’s guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Let’s hope I’m wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase “every little helps” is applicable in this case. Any other views?

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General Discussion / Re: Season end.
« on: May 06, 2021, 11:01:57 AM »
From HMRC guide “ To be free of VAT, a donation in addition to an admission charge must be genuinely voluntary, and advertised as such. ”

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General Discussion / Re: Clubs latest accounts
« on: May 01, 2021, 08:26:01 AM »
Mallard, I’m glad you’re not my financial advisor.  Your assessment and interpretation of a balance sheet is quite amazing.

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General Discussion / Re: Clubs latest accounts
« on: April 30, 2021, 08:47:41 PM »
Don’t know what balance sheet you’re looking at.  Deficit has increased by a further £65,000.  By any stretch of the imagination this is not a sound balance sheet!!!   Fixed assets are always questionable as invariably they are never worth what they are stated even if written down values apply unless of course it’s freehold property which obviously it’s not.  I believe the lease of the ground is not an asset of lynn fc ltd.

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General Discussion / Re: Trust
« on: February 26, 2021, 08:17:21 AM »
Mallard and Admin, I don’t think this thread should be pulled.  I think even Loopy would understand that naming names with no evidence could lead to a lot of trouble for him.  My suggestion was made tongue in cheek, surely even he would realise that. Wouldn’t he?

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General Discussion / Re: Trust
« on: February 26, 2021, 07:54:44 AM »
Oh Loopy, you’re full of such good ideas.  You obviously can’t understand the difference between having a say and having control.  As you are so blinkered, I hope you have already pledged your £300 or perhaps you have given even more.  I would imagine you must have, given your infatuation with Mr Cleeve.  Regarding your glib statement regarding Trust members, obviously you must have facts to back this up so why don’t you name names.  I think the one thing fans need now is to face reality, the current situation as we are lead to believe, is beyond redemption.  Getting fans to buy into Cleeve’s latest fantasy is, to say the least, farcical.  In my view, it’s throwing good money after bad and it is doomed to fail.  One final point Loopy, who gives you the opportunity to spew your ill-thought verbal trash, why, it’s the Trust. The very Trust that you hate so much. 

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