Stan I meant to call it that, but it went completely different. Thanks for the replies. I don't just get these phone ins. Someone sitting in a layby on the M6, whose signal is breaking up,ranting about their team who has just lost and they have 200 mile trip back home in a strop,which has cost them 100 quid to get there and back. Surely there are better things to discuss than why they went from Exeter to Hartlepool, are they in the same league? to get beat. The fun of it is following your team its the day away, if you go, don't moan about it, that's football. PS. Don't tell Savage.