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« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2020, 05:05:57 PM »
KES I use to watch Jackanory as a kid as well.  :laughcry:

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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2020, 05:21:05 PM »
KES I use to watch Jackanory as a kid as well.  :laughcry:
We can go backwards and forwards all day long arguing who's right and who's wrong. You clearly haven't noticed that Henderson clips his own ankles and there is no significant contact from the Guiseley player. Footballers are very good at doing this and a lot of refs and fans get conned and when this is pointed out don't have the humility to admit their mistakes.

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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2020, 05:54:21 PM »
As you say can argue this one till the virus is over but it won't achieve much...Bev's video indicates that the defender is at quite an angle rather than upright, so there is significant contact and at that speed it doesn't take much to tip the balance...not sure that Hendo was in control of himself at all when he fell, so whose ankles touched his is probably not relevant.......just for the record, I would be saying the same if anyone else, incl Mallard was saying no foul... it's just how I see it...close call, but on balance a foul. You see it the other way Stan and there's nothing wrong in that

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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2020, 06:12:05 PM »
As you say can argue this one till the virus is over but it won't achieve much...Bev's video indicates that the defender is at quite an angle rather than upright, so there is significant contact and at that speed it doesn't take much to tip the balance...not sure that Hendo was in control of himself at all when he fell, so whose ankles touched his is probably not relevant.......just for the record, I would be saying the same if anyone else, incl Mallard was saying no foul... it's just how I see it...close call, but on balance a foul. You see it the other way Stan and there's nothing wrong in that
The video I've put on here is not Bev Asher's. The one I've put on shows that it clearly wasn't a penalty. There's no clear contact and Henderson is booked for feigning a foul.  The fact that the ref got this right from the position that he was in ( not a bad one) is to his credit. I'm not saying the ref had a good game yesterday and I know it's difficult to accept this evidence because you need a scapegoat for the defeat yesterday: that's understandable when you are passionate about Lynn. You get these sort of reactions all the time when there's a lot at stake in a game.

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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2020, 06:14:54 PM »
Blimey guys, good job you're not in the VAR room. We'd have been in the ground for around seven hours now!  :laughcry:

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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2020, 08:07:38 PM »
Actually Stan, I am passionate about Lynn, but have split loyalties as lived in the Leeds area for a number of years..... but whether I am wearing a white or a blue shirt or whether I am watching the video from the link you gave or Bev's vid, I still see it as a foul.........I do understand you find my opinion difficult sometimes, I am not being confrontational for the sake of it, but we just have to accept we are different people with different views and each is entitled to that.......so there we are .....

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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2020, 08:26:42 PM »
KES you are certainly different if you were/are a dirty Leeds supporter.

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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2020, 08:27:01 PM »
VAR in operation at Lynn yesterday. Very Awful Ref.

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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2020, 08:42:45 PM »
VAR in operation at Lynn yesterday. Very Awful Ref.

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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2020, 09:23:50 PM »
KES you are certainly different if you were/are a dirty Leeds supporter.

Affinity with the Leeds area would be more like it Mall.
I witnessed, I think, some of the worst fan behaviour I have ever seen from the Leeds fans when at Elland Road watching Leeds v Liverpool in the old first division. Leeds were about to get relegated and Bill Shankly had just passed away.................very sad day...was pleased to get out of the ground and home in one piece that day

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« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2020, 01:07:02 AM »
Referees at this level have to rely on their judgement,no VAR here! Anyone in their right mind being in the position of the refere or the linesman would have given a foul our way,they went with the shout from Guiseley players,the basis on which most decisions were mad during the game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
"Anyone in their right mind!" You mean anyone with your mind. Suck it up Griss, you know it wasn't a pen!


At what point did I say it was a penalty,I was about 20 yards away,it was a foul on Hendo,no way should he have got a yellow,should have had a free kick,and their player a red,being the last defender! But no matter Stan you know best! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
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« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2020, 04:11:03 AM »
Referees at this level have to rely on their judgement,no VAR here! Anyone in their right mind being in the position of the refere or the linesman would have given a foul our way,they went with the shout from Guiseley players,the basis on which most decisions were mad during the game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
"Anyone in their right mind!" You mean anyone with your mind. Suck it up Griss, you know it wasn't a pen!


At what point did I say it was a penalty,I was about 20 yards away,it was a foul on Hendo,no way should he have got a yellow,should have had a free kick,and their player a red,being the last defender! But no matter Stan you know best! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
It wasn't a foul and it was a yellow card for simulation. I've sent the video link to 4 people not at the game yesterday, one of whom is a former ref ( I am a former ref myself) and they all agree with me. 

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« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2020, 05:22:57 AM »
Referees at this level have to rely on their judgement,no VAR here! Anyone in their right mind being in the position of the refere or the linesman would have given a foul our way,they went with the shout from Guiseley players,the basis on which most decisions were mad during the game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
"Anyone in their right mind!" You mean anyone with your mind. Suck it up Griss, you know it wasn't a pen!


At what point did I say it was a penalty,I was about 20 yards away,it was a foul on Hendo,no way should he have got a yellow,should have had a free kick,and their player a red,being the last defender! But no matter Stan you know best! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
It wasn't a foul and it was a yellow card for simulation. I've sent the video link to 4 people not at the game yesterday, one of whom is a former ref ( I am a former ref myself) and they all agree with me.


You really must be sad to go to those lengths to prove a player of the team you claim to support guilty,to everyone behind that goal it was a foul on Henderson,and their player was lucky to get away with it,an opinion voiced by some of their fans! just concentrate on Brexit and vow never to attend another game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
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« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2020, 05:40:56 AM »
Referees at this level have to rely on their judgement,no VAR here! Anyone in their right mind being in the position of the refere or the linesman would have given a foul our way,they went with the shout from Guiseley players,the basis on which most decisions were mad during the game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
"Anyone in their right mind!" You mean anyone with your mind. Suck it up Griss, you know it wasn't a pen!


At what point did I say it was a penalty,I was about 20 yards away,it was a foul on Hendo,no way should he have got a yellow,should have had a free kick,and their player a red,being the last defender! But no matter Stan you know best! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
It wasn't a foul and it was a yellow card for simulation. I've sent the video link to 4 people not at the game yesterday, one of whom is a former ref ( I am a former ref myself) and they all agree with me.


You really must be sad to go to those lengths to prove a player of the team you claim to support guilty,to everyone behind that goal it was a foul on Henderson,and their player was lucky to get away with it,an opinion voiced by some of their fans! just concentrate on Brexit and vow never to attend another game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
Shame this has to drift into personal criticism but unfortunately that often tends to happen when arguments flounder. I also thought it was a penalty at first but the evidence changed my mind. I think it's important to have an open mind and to be prepared to change it when evidence contradicts what you originally thought, don't you? I mean sticking to an untenable position just for the sake of "winning" an argument, well, that would be sad, very sad indeed.

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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2020, 05:50:15 AM »
Referees at this level have to rely on their judgement,no VAR here! Anyone in their right mind being in the position of the refere or the linesman would have given a foul our way,they went with the shout from Guiseley players,the basis on which most decisions were mad during the game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
"Anyone in their right mind!" You mean anyone with your mind. Suck it up Griss, you know it wasn't a pen!


At what point did I say it was a penalty,I was about 20 yards away,it was a foul on Hendo,no way should he have got a yellow,should have had a free kick,and their player a red,being the last defender! But no matter Stan you know best! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
It wasn't a foul and it was a yellow card for simulation. I've sent the video link to 4 people not at the game yesterday, one of whom is a former ref ( I am a former ref myself) and they all agree with me.


You really must be sad to go to those lengths to prove a player of the team you claim to support guilty,to everyone behind that goal it was a foul on Henderson,and their player was lucky to get away with it,an opinion voiced by some of their fans! just concentrate on Brexit and vow never to attend another game! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
Shame this has to drift into personal criticism but unfortunately that often tends to happen when arguments flounder. I also thought it was a penalty at first but the evidence changed my mind. I think it's important to have an open mind and to be prepared to change it when evidence contradicts what you originally thought, don't you? I mean sticking to an untenable position just for the sake of "winning" an argument, well, that would be sad, very sad indeed.

Did I at any point say that it was a penalty?
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