The big vote

[KES80]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52316971

[Mick]

I will be really surprised if they go with the PPG model.   

What alternatives do you see B and G for determining promotion and relegation if null and void isn't used ?

Kes, just a little side note.


When Setch's lads won the title in 2012-2013, if the league had been cancelled with 8 games to go and it had been decided on PPG, Coalville would have been declared Champions.


Coalville would have finished with 2.23

Lynn would have finished with 2.17

And last season with 8 to go. Stourbridge would have joined Kettering Town promoted.

Stourbridge   2.00
King's Lynn   1.76

So we mustn't complain too much

[Blue_and_Gold]

Last night Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab confirmed the UK lock down will go on until at least May 7, and acknowledged it was going to be 'rough going'.

But he said it would be 'irresponsible' to set a timetable for lifting the lock down when the virus was still killing hundreds each day.


Ministers are in frantic talks on when and how to ease restrictions costing an estimated £2 billion a day. As well as a rise in testing and tracing it will mean measures to reduce infection in day-to-day life.

A Cabinet source told the Mail ministers accepted social distancing would have to continue for many months to prevent a deadly second wave.

'We are starting to see other countries like Germany ease their lockdowns and I don't think we will want to be too far behind, given the impact on the economy,' the source said.

'But everyone accepts – including industry – that the next phase is not going to be a return to business as usual. We will need intensive testing and tracing of suspected cases.

'And we will have to have social distancing in factories and offices – we will need personal protective equipment in the workplace. Otherwise we are going to be back in this situation again.'


___________________________________________

What the experts say regarding the wearing of masks :

Professor Trisha Greenhalgh


'If 100 per cent of population wears them, reduction in the amount of virus in air is substantial.'


Professor Babak Javid
Tsinghua University School of Medicine

'There's likely to be an upside to wearing them and practically no downside.'


Dr David Nabarro
WHO coronavirus special convoy

'We are saying get societies defended. Yes, we will have to wear masks.'


Professor Ian Jones
Virology, University of Reading

'Masks have value, otherwise healthcare workers wouldn't wear them.'


Dr Simon Clarke
Microbiology, Reading University

 'Advising their use could be a way of reassuring people back to work.'

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[KES80]

Have this strange vision of 1500 at the Walks, 1200 wearing blue and gold face masks and 300 wearing opposition colours.

[KES80]

If we are going to need them anyway, we may as well buy blue and gold ones to support the club...... could be a VERY practical way to save lives, stay healthy and support the club financially

[Blue_and_Gold]

If we are going to need them anyway, we may as well buy blue and gold ones to support the club...... could be a VERY practical way to save lives, stay healthy and support the club financially

I don't think anyone trying to make money out of selling masks at a profit would be very popular at the moment though, do you?   

Apparently one of the problems with ending the lock down and starting limited social activities will be the availability of masks. There's still not an abundance of them for the front line workers and its important that the general public don't do (or are allowed to do) anything that may put the supply chain under any further pressure.

[Loughborough Linnet]

If we are going to need them anyway, we may as well buy blue and gold ones to support the club...... could be a VERY practical way to save lives, stay healthy and support the club financially

I don't think anyone trying to make money out of selling masks at a profit would be very popular at the moment though, do you?   

Apparently one of the problems with ending the lock down and starting limited social activities will be the availability of masks. There's still not an abundance of them for the front line workers and its important that the general public don't do (or are allowed to do) anything that may put the supply chain under any further pressure.

Because of the current PPE shortage, one imagines the current lockdown may go on slightly longer than is necessary, to enable PPE supplies to build up again. Also, as hospitals are running short, it would be foolish to encourage public mask wearing, as the supply is largely fixed, and their is already a global upsurge in demand. The government was taking about the potential of alternating between strict and loose measures, and when the current lockdown is over , we’re likely to go to something between the current guidelines and those from mid march.

For example, schools shut four days before the lockdown began. It’s unlikely they’ll re-open just because lockdown 1 ends (Whenever that is). That being the case, with public events being banned about two weeks before lockdown began, I can’t see anymore football at the Walks in 2020. Unless something drastically changes. Like adopting the Belarusian approach of not being able to afford measures, so accepting an increase in fatalities (not that I’m suggesting we should do that.)

[KES80]

If we are going to need them anyway, we may as well buy blue and gold ones to support the club...... could be a VERY practical way to save lives, stay healthy and support the club financially

I don't think anyone trying to make money out of selling masks at a profit would be very popular at the moment though, do you?   

Apparently one of the problems with ending the lock down and starting limited social activities will be the availability of masks. There's still not an abundance of them for the front line workers and its important that the general public don't do (or are allowed to do) anything that may put the supply chain under any further pressure.

No, but given that there will hopefully be a time in the future, when there will be football at the Walks......maybe early 2021 who knows and if and when it does return there will still be a need for social distancing or masks, then it might be possible then.

The current shortage of masks for key workers in the UK is a different issue..
People all around the world and particularly in the Far East have been wearing masks during this crisis and well before.
I wear a mask in Norwich when cycling on smoggy days.

[Mallard]

Whenever we come out of this and Football starts up again it may well be a different world.

With the experts talking of a return to the depression days of 1930  will people be able to afford to watch football live.   Could be a reset button where £17 Non League admission and part time players on 4 figure weekly wages will be a thing of the past.    Lots of things for people to consider as we move forward.

[Blue_and_Gold]

Whenever we come out of this and Football starts up again it may well be a different world.

With the experts talking of a return to the depression days of 1930  will people be able to afford to watch football live.   Could be a reset button where £17 Non League admission and part time players on 4 figure weekly wages will be a thing of the past.    Lots of things for people to consider as we move forward.

Indeed, and lots of things to look forward to.   

[macfleetwood1]

I started this post on April 11th, 54 replies later, and we are still no nearer to finding out what our fate will be. This seems to also be the case for the Premier League and others. This is now a farce, and I will be surprised if one or two big name clubs end up going to the wall. 

[westlynnmike]

£20 entrance as we will have to pay for all the Team's Face Masks during the game. 

[Mallard]

At £20 WLM that’s like the club doing its own form of social distancing.    Really think that when we start playing again the cost of admission needs to be given some serious consideration.   

[TonyM]

Just listened to SC's latest podcast.  His understanding is that the 4 NLN votes (and the corresponding NLS votes) are in effect a block vote based on the majority of those clubs ie if 12 NLN clubs vote in favour then that will be the 4 NLN votes in favour which go into the mix with the 4 from the NLS and the 24 National League side's votes.  Both SC and the chap from Wealdstone both confirmed that their club's have voted to end the season, SC also said he has asked that how each club votes should be made public, not sure what would be gained but he seems to think it is important.

[Mallard]

Also had a listen in to SC.    Seems like he sees the season will not start in Aug.  Plus with Euros next year the season will have to be pushed through at a fair old rate.  That’s if it gets underway at all.

Makes sense that Lynn won’t sell season tickets without knowing what League, how many games and when it will start.  Makes sense.