The big vote

[macfleetwood1]

It's the big vote next week, only 4 clubs allowed to vote from our league, that's not fair, all 24 of the high league voting, a certain Mr Barwick to thank. Do you think that is right, what do you think.

[Blue_and_Gold]

It's the big vote next week, only 4 clubs allowed to vote from our league, that's not fair, all 24 of the high league voting, a certain Mr Barwick to thank. Do you think that is right, what do you think.

I'd be interested to know the reasons behind the decision to only allow 4 clubs to vote.   

On face value it does not seem fair, but do they have a valid reason behind this decision? 

[stevejuke]

Who decides which four clubs?

[KES80]

Already there is too much ambiguity.
The voting needs to be the same for all 3 National leagues.
Clubs also need to be told of the consequences of the first stage of the vote (ending the season), ie what the options at vote 2 will be, before this first stage takes place.
Seems somewhat hurried, messy and unprofessional after a few weeks of going nowhere

[wack]

where does this info come from please

[macfleetwood1]

All information coming from Chesterfield fc

[admin]

“Null and void won’t be on the table. It will not be an option”  according to Harrogate Town managing director Garry Plant, quoted in the Yorkshire Post.

[Mick]

“Null and void won’t be on the table. It will not be an option”  according to Harrogate Town managing director Garry Plant, quoted in the Yorkshire Post.

Interesting read
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/national-league-clubs-will-not-have-option-vote-void-201920-season-2535547

[Mallard]

If EFL decide not to accept any new clubs or indeed relegate any clubs then it doesn’t really matter what The National League does.

[Nemesis]

Doesn't it also have to be ratified by the FA Council and we already know they prefer null and void over PPG?

[Mallard]

Reading varies opinions.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Premier League and the Championship to re-start their season ( talk is 13th-16th June). With relegation and promotion between those two leagues with everything under that being null & void.

There lies the rub.  If the above happens ( behind closed doors) the current season will end Late June/early July.  Closed season during August.  Pre-season Sept with season 20/21 starting for all teams at the beginning of October.   

Think that would be a real problem for the Non League game with no income from Games between Aug and Oct.

[gs50]

What you are really saying is the top two leagues have to complete their games before end of June otherwise they will lose out on the sky contract.Who needs the Premier division havnt missed it at all. How do they intend to play behind closed doors and stay 6ft apart. Let's face it
this is with us until vaccine is found.Forget the money let common sense prevail PPG through all the league's and new season starts when possible.

[Mallard]

Completed by the end of July.  Money always seems to speak the loudest and getting on for 800m payback seems to be the issue.

Seems like the National League can’t make a decision off their own back and are throwing it back onto the clubs. Worried about legal action ?

That’s only half the battle.  If they decide to go with promoting
Clubs then the EFL would have to accept the Clubs and relegate clubs.   Then this all has to be sanctioned by the FA.

With threats off a 2nd wave ( and indeed talk of a 3rd). When will crowds be allowed back
Into grounds ?  October ?

[KES80]

Flagging this up now, as something which shouldn't happen because the size, following , style and standard is greatly different between North and South, but this is the type of cop out / fend off that Committee s can sometimes come up with :
EFL 2   one short so promote Barrow
No relegation from National League.
Fill the one space by promotion from North/South with side with best PPG : Wealdstone
No relegation from North /South



What I guess might be a possible is a one off play off between the top Sides in N/S, based on PPG....ie Wealdstone and Lynn,.....,
(if its allowable to have 30 people in close proximity before contracts run out......which seems very unlikely.)

[westlynnmike]

Flagging this up now, as something which shouldn't happen because the size, following , style and standard is greatly different between North and South, but this is the type of cop out / fend off that Committee s can sometimes come up with :
EFL 2   one short so promote Barrow
No relegation from National League.
Fill the one space by promotion from North/South with side with best PPG : Wealdstone
No relegation from North /South



What I guess might be a possible is a one off play off between the top Sides in N/S, based on PPG....ie Wealdstone and Lynn,.....,
(if its allowable to have 30 people in close proximity before contracts run out......which seems very unlikely.)

If using PPG for promotions it should be used for relegations as well - albeit Step 3 are Null and Void.

It should be relatively simple - Two Up from North and South & Four Down from National League all based on PPG. So Lynn and York should both go up.