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MARCUS ROSE

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Re: The big vote
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2020, 10:53:53 PM »
Also had a listen in to SC.    Seems like he sees the season will not start in Aug.  Plus with Euros next year the season will have to be pushed through at a fair old rate.  Thatís if it gets underway at all.

Makes sense that Lynn wonít sell season tickets without knowing what League, how many games and when it will start.  Makes sense.

Sensible clubs are already selling season tickets for the next season. A valuable source of income in the current crisis.

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« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2020, 10:38:54 AM »
Also had a listen in to SC.    Seems like he sees the season will not start in Aug.  Plus with Euros next year the season will have to be pushed through at a fair old rate.  Thatís if it gets underway at all.

Makes sense that Lynn wonít sell season tickets without knowing what League, how many games and when it will start.  Makes sense.

Sensible clubs are already selling season tickets for the next season. A valuable source of income in the current crisis.

Sorry Marcus, but I am with SC on this point.  As much as I think SC has made some 'questionable' financial decisions in his tenure, including 2 year contracts which he also addressed in his latest podcast, I think the decision not to sell season tickets is right on both the main reasons he cited -
    1) we have no idea what next season will look like in terms of its structure, although it seems unlikely it will be a 'full' season playing each side home and away
    2) using 'next seasons' money to prop up this season becomes a cycle that is then difficult to get out of
Obviously you could argue that these are exceptional times so need exceptional responses and I appreciate the cash shortfall experienced by many clubs needs to be plugged, just not sure season tickets is the right option

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« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2020, 12:51:43 PM »
Interesting article in todayís NLP. Havant & Waterlooville Manager Paul Doswell.   Well worth a read.

EFL clubs will be getting rid of players wholesale and will be the end of players earning £700-£800-£900 a week at Non League Can expect to be earning half that.

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« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2020, 01:29:04 PM »
Certainty at last as the National League clubs vote to end the season
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52381612

Glad to see sense prevailed and they announced this before all votes were in after Exeter said in the NLP that they didn't think clubs should be voting on something like this so wouldn't - could easily have increased the wait for clubs at step 2 who now know their season (and contracts) can come to an end at the right time.

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« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2020, 02:44:32 PM »
Do we know what options will be given to the clubs on the 2nd vote and what timescale is involved ?

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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2020, 06:07:50 PM »
Not seen anything official, but my guess is that now that the pressing situation with clubs and player contracts, particularly at step 2 where they finish in April, has been resolved the National League can now take their time to resolve what happens.  My money is on them taking a 'waiting to see' approach and then provide some options once the position in the EFL is clearer.

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« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2020, 11:17:02 AM »
Not seen anything official, but my guess is that now that the pressing situation with clubs and player contracts, particularly at step 2 where they finish in April, has been resolved the National League can now take their time to resolve what happens.  My money is on them taking a 'waiting to see' approach and then provide some options once the position in the EFL is clearer.

It all depends on which team is promoted to EFL1 to replace Bury who were ejected. That means a team from EFL2 missing so the cascade continues. Will EFL only accept 1x Team to fill the slot but not allow any Relegations? Will the EFL call it Promotion or Selection?

Will Teams in Premier, Championship and EFL 1 and 2 follow previous seasons and carry out Promotions and Relegations and 1.) Allow that procedure to cascade into Step 2. or 2.) Stop Relegations at EFL2 to Step 2 Level. Much depends on that decision by Step 1.

Then comes the Articles of the Northern League where they cannot treat any team from Step 2's 3 Leagues NPL and North and South differently. If one team goes up to fill the EFL2 slot then a team from N or S will go up but if it's only one team the other League will have been treated differently. What a bugger's muddle.

The Step 2 leagues cannot Relegate to Step 3 as they have "Null and Voided" so no Promotions and Relegations between Step 2 and 3. That seems simple enough.

It's the Promotions and Relegations between NPL and North and South where the sticking point/log jam occurs.

Simple Solution: Highest PPG Team from North and South goes Up to NPL to fill the vacant slot left by the Team going to EFL. FULL STOP.

As 1 x Team has gone Up to EFL then 1 x Team must go Up to NPL fro North/South.

Will we then have a "just the one" Team Up situation or should Step 2 have a "normal" Promotions and Relegations between NPL and North and South leagues.

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« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2020, 12:08:34 PM »
Yes Mike this is what I was saying before.... I can see Barrow promoted to league 2 to make up the numbers there and best PPG N/S is Wealdstone to replace them in National League, with no other promotions or relegations. If Lynn are v lucky, it might be a play off with Wealdstone behind closed doors (best PPG N and S) to determine who fills the space.....and btw York will just love that !

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« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2020, 12:20:59 PM »
If Lynn hadn't fallen away so badly at the end of course they would be top of North and also have a better PPG than Wealdstone ......so ironically maybe null and void will ultimately be seen to be the least painful option (?)

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« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2020, 12:34:22 PM »
All irrelevant there will be social distancing until early next year at the earliest.

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« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2020, 02:03:29 PM »
Unless itís all change this season last season (2018/19) four clubs were relegated from the National League. If that is the case the obvious solution is promote the two top teams from North and South as it stands now.

Admin can you Please inform us what is in place this season. 

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« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2020, 02:26:09 PM »
From Home page:

Having received the majority of votes from member clubs it has been announced by the National League that the remaining league matches of the season have been cancelled.
The next step will be to the decide upon the "options concerning the sporting outcomes of the 2019/20 season [which will] remain under careful and timely consideration, and further updates will be given in due course."
So Lynn end the 2019-20 season in second spot with two games in hand over leaders York City and two points behind but on a run which had seen them reap just four points from a possible eighteen.
What an interesting end to the season it might have been.
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Re: The big vote
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2020, 03:16:37 PM »
Unless itís all change this season last season (2018/19) four clubs were relegated from the National League. If that is the case the obvious solution is promote the two top teams from North and South as it stands now.

Admin can you Please inform us what is in place this season. 

Regards- Badger  :oldman" :scarf:

If National League Relegates 4 x Teams and Promotes 1 x Team to EFL2 then there will need to be 5 X Teams from North and South.

Maybe 3 x Teams Relegated  :dontknow:
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Re: The big vote
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2020, 09:34:56 AM »
All irrelevant there will be social distancing until early next year at the earliest.

Just wondering.

What are peoples thoughts on next season, irrespective of the level we will be playing at?

i.e. Will we start in September?
     Will there even be a 2020/21 season (of any sorts)?
     If there is no football, what options does that leave the Club?

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« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2020, 10:26:50 AM »
Think we will have a much clearer picture in 4-6 weeks time  B&G........my gut feeling at the moment is that the season won't start on time, but that there will be some competition of sorts, perhaps starting October/November, perhaps starting off behind closed doors and supported by the FA/funding from higher up the pyramid. There may be loads of time for the club to explore new avenues eg Academy training might be possible on some level once Schools are back, even if only part time.

Can see next 'season' being a time of massive financial reorientation......not just in football.