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Re: The big vote
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2020, 10:36:44 AM »
Can see next 'season' being a time of massive financial reorientation......not just in football.

Very much so. The reset button won't apply just to football!
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« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2020, 12:27:09 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52409558


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« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2020, 09:19:08 PM »
Meanwhile, in the Netherlands.

The Eredivisie - the top tier of football in the Netherlands - has been abandoned for the season with no title winner and no teams relegated.

The move comes after the national government banned major events until 1 September because of coronavirus.

Dutch football's governing body the KNVB said "it has become impossible to play out the 2019-20 season".

Ajax led the table from AZ Alkmaar on goal difference with nine games left but will not be named champions.

Both Ajax and AZ Alkmaar will go into the Champions League qualifying stages, pending ratification by Uefa.

No sides will be relegated or promoted, meaning Cambuur - who topped the second tier and held an 11-point gap over the play-off positions - will not go up.

Cambuur head coach Henk de John told broadcaster NOS the decision felt "like the biggest disgrace in the history of Dutch sport".

The KNVB added: "The KNVB is aware that whatever decision had to be made, every option would hurt somewhere.

"It will be crystal clear to everyone involved, from supporters and players to directors and referees, that public health always comes first.

"Nevertheless, the professional football board is aware that today's decisions will cause great disappointment in football for some.

The Eredivisie has never ended a season without a champion being named since it was formed in 1956.

The KNVB added that clubs could not be promoted from the second tier without relegation from the top division, in order to ensure there was no fixture congestion next season.

The body said it consulted with the parties involved and asked them to vote for "no relegation and no promotion" or "relegation and promotion" - but the result returned "no clear preference", resulting in the KNVB being left to take the decision.

"Because many rounds still have to be played in the competitions, we believe that we cannot apply promotion/relegation and that is decided," the KNVB added.

Third-place Feyenoord will qualify for the Europa League group stages, with fourth-placed PSV and fifth-placed Willem II entering the qualifying stages of the competition, subject to Uefa's approval.

Football authorities in neighbouring Belgium are expected to decide whether to ratify the cancellation of its top-flight Pro League on Friday.

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« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2020, 08:31:02 AM »
On a positive note it sounds like Holland will be allowing spectators to attend matches after Sept 1st.

Can see Prem and The Championship finishing the season behind closed doors.  With Promotion and relegation between the two Leagues.   The rest as only 66% of the Leagues completed will be null and void.

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« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2020, 08:35:05 AM »
Seems somewhat incongruous.........they seem to have null and voided, except for the decision that the current top 2, who by nulling and voiding, haven't finished in the top 2, can then go into the Champions League......bizarre.
If you are going to say that public health is more important than football competition and results you have to see it through from top to bottom......if there was no season then there is nothing to base anything on, so No Champions League for a season......seems to me a case of principles up to a point and then money takes over

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« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2020, 08:49:51 AM »


Can see Prem and The Championship finishing the season behind closed doors.  With Promotion and relegation between the two Leagues.   The rest as only 66% of the Leagues completed will be null and void.
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This can't be right tho surely. There has to be consistency across the board.........or are we moving towards two different football codes,housing different rules and playing conditions, a bit like Rugby League and Union..

Already we have an FA Cup which starts with no VAR and ends with full blown VAR.....consistency has to be the way forward for the game to save face....if the Prem wants to play out, it should be a condition that they provide the funds for everyone else to do the same.....if that's not feasible then all the leagues should end now IMO

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« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2020, 09:10:20 AM »
How can you even play a match behind closed doors if there is still social distancing. I can see money talking to get the premier division completed.

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« Reply #82 on: April 25, 2020, 09:43:26 AM »
Why cannot it be right KES.    Step 3 downwards in Non League came out weeks go with.... End of season, Null n Void no Promotion, relegation etc.  Letís not assume we are singing from the same hymn sheet.   The needs, ideals of Football at different levels are totally different. 

My bet would be on the top 2 Leagues finishing in an attempt to claw back some of the loses.  Money talks

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« Reply #83 on: April 25, 2020, 10:45:38 AM »
That's the issue I have Mall with the current situation...the ideals and needs of the game should be THE SAME at all levels.... it's a simple game, it's a sport ........the top has to support the bottom for the game to really survive, otherwise the Prem becomes more and more elitist...its just not sustainable on so many levels

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« Reply #84 on: April 25, 2020, 10:59:01 AM »
Now another "Spanner in the Works" with Bury looking to get back into National League or North laegue.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3516125988414571&set=gm.2622882697936706&type=3&theater
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« Reply #85 on: April 25, 2020, 11:26:44 AM »
Now another "Spanner in the Works" with Bury looking to get back into National League or North laegue.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3516125988414571&set=gm.2622882697936706&type=3&theater

Is the link broken? I can't open it.   :dontknow:
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Re: The big vote
« Reply #87 on: April 25, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8255587/Bury-owner-Steve-Dale-reveals-club-hope-placed-National-League-season.html

Thanks. Read it and  also the comments that followd by their supporters about their Chairman. Looks like theres problems ahead there even if they are allowed back in, and even if he's no longer at the helm.
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« Reply #88 on: April 25, 2020, 06:29:52 PM »
It would be interesting for Admin to publish some of the posts from posters following promotion last year.It's been a fantastic season so far and beyond belief in my humble opinion and always felt under financed.
The thought that clubs with half Lynn's gate purely shows what can be achieved should you involve supporters and the local community.

At the end of the day promotion to the National League would  be a step too far for the current Leadership.

I have played professionally and deemed myself a failed professional but that's another story. My one regret is not acknowledging the supporters, it was game over couldn't wait to get home not realising what it would have meant for the players to show their face. I am now 82 so you can realise how many years ago that was.
 

Well done to the players and support staff .

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Re: The big vote
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2020, 08:58:42 AM »
More about Bury FC from the Manchester Evening News 21 April 2020 - https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/hundreds-sign-up-become-bury-18121022

Here is a snippet from the article:

"Bury AFC was founded as a phoenix club by fans at the end of 2019 and in February had an application approved to join the North West Counties League Division One from the start of next season.

The new club is a reincarnation of Bury FC, who were expelled from the EFL over longstanding financial and ownership issues.

The newly formed club, which has more than 300 volunteers, has now launched a Shakers community membership scheme so fans can have their say in how the new club is run."
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