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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2020, 07:39:08 PM »
With England playing Wales at Wembley behind closed doors on Oct 8th.  It does make me wonder when the season will be allowed to start with crowds in.

You make a good point, if the National Team arenít going to be in front of crowd until October, itís unlikely the National League will be allowed in the ground until at least then, if not later.

The big question is will the NL wait until people can watch before they start, or try and utilise the streaming services and such that are being trialled with the play-offs.

I also wonder how many will be put off coming if they have to wear a mask the whole time; something thatís likely from how the guidance in general has shifted in the last few weeks.

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2020, 08:41:22 PM »
Just when you think you've heard and seen it all!
It's been said on quite a few occasions that the only things Mr Cleeve has in is armoury(apart from splashing the dosh around which he has previously said he's not going to continue to do)is the ability to charge top dollar for everything.That sometimes works for a while if a team is being successful,but if they are struggling I really believe you will see a drop in gates and therefore revenue, irrespective of the level they play at.The higher the cost of admission the easier it will be for people to consider missing a few games.
There's been a ridiculous amount of money spent and put in as Directors loans to get us to this level and to me it does not look as if the infrastructure has ever been successfully put in place to allow the Chairman to reduce the amounts he loans to the Club.Don't believe what you're told about it being put in as loans rather than a gift for tax reasons.There's other methods that don't involve loans that also offer tax breaks.Any doubts,just ask the person that stated this how it works!My money's on the answer to that one producing a real little gem!
This is the problem I see with the Sole Benefactor model.When a Club appears to have been built on a foundation of Directors loans and not commercial activity and a Football Club Director wants to,or more likely needs to, stop funding a Club,is often the time when the fun and games begin.The road to success is littered with such examples.Supporters know this but not all want to admit it.
Over the last four years or so we have heard numerous comments about what was going to happen with the Commercial side of our Club,and also who was going to do it.Nothing ever seemed to materialise.The Club obviously needs increased revenue to operate (quote) at the level it now finds itself. If the Chairman no longer wants to or is able to fund the Club as he has been for the last four years, the money has to come from elsewhere.Unless this is generated by Commercial activity or by the Clubs controlled Supporters Club, its always going to fall into the lap of the supporters walking through the gate on match day.That's unless we suddenly score big in the transfer market.
Yes we need the Commercial side to massively up its game.It won't be easy due to several factors but Mark Hearle has to be given the chance to turn it around.We appear to be suffering due to past failures in this area
Mr Cleeve has mentioned what other Supporters donate to their Clubs.We may be in the same league as these other Clubs on the pitch,but we appear to be three divisions below them when it comes to fund raising.This is the domain of the Supporters Club.They need to raise funds commensurate with the level we are now at.We wouldn't expect one of Setch's teams to operate at National League level so equally we can't have the Supporters Club fund raising activites coming up with raised funds more suitable to a Southern League level Club.If they haven't increased the money they have raised at the same rate as the gate prices,player wages etc etc, then something is wrong.If the Club is now paying twice the amount in players wages as it was Four years ago and if the cost of entry has doubled in the last 4 years,then hopefully the fund raising activities have generated twice as much in the same period.I doubt that it has but also doubt we will ever know anyway.
If players wages go up,expenses go up,cost of admission goes up as we go through the leagues,the fund raising activities of both the Commercial department and Supporters Club need to up their game to this level as well.We need the both of these departments to perform like a Bentley and not a Ford Escort,or heaven only knows what the cost of admission will end up at.It's a tough game we in.If people aren't up to the job,then get people in that are.Problem here of course is that there's a chance that these capable people won't be yes men who are more concerned with their positions at Club than anything else..
We have previously been informed that theres a management committee in place which consists of Cleeve,Hearle and Back.It would therefore be unfair to place the unpopular decision to increase the admission prices by such an amount entirely on Cleeves shoulders.That's one for all of us to remember for the future.Joint decisions bring joint responsibility.
I've just noticed a post about face masks.Subjecting such loyal supporters as  Lynn's to these price increases,for some people wearing a mask is probably the right thing to do!

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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2020, 08:42:28 PM »
I believe it is also mentioned on the podcast that if attendances are restricted to 30% - 40% at the start of the season, then prices could may well be increased......or did I misunderstand this???

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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2020, 08:45:14 PM »
From Facebook:
King's Lynn Town Football Club

Season ticket pricing update:
Following the announcement of pricing earlier today we wish to announce that seated season tickets in the premier seating areas are priced at £500 and not the originally announced price of £575 for BOTH adults and concessions. We apologise sincerely for the oversight that was made and we have now rectified the prices to reflect this.
We also again wish to state that students, 16 and 17 year old's who wish to attend the games and wish to purchase a cheaper ticket can purchase a season ticket priced at £260 ( £11:30 per game ) for the ground and £300 ( £13:04 per game )  for the blue seated areas in the main stand. We ask that you provide full ID when purchasing your season ticket and remind you that  adult general admission prices will apply to this age bracket on a matchday.

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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2020, 08:57:52 PM »
Good to see that when Stephen and Mark get it wrong they hold their hands up and admit they cocked it right up.

Maybe they should have done it as an early bird offer say until the end of July.   Then it would be down to the fans to grab it.

Come on Mark, Wakey Wakey, lets start thinking outside the box.   

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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2020, 09:14:42 PM »
From Facebook:
King's Lynn Town Football Club

Season ticket pricing update:
Following the announcement of pricing earlier today we wish to announce that seated season tickets in the premier seating areas are priced at £500 and not the originally announced price of £575 for BOTH adults and concessions. We apologise sincerely for the oversight that was made and we have now rectified the prices to reflect this.
We also again wish to state that students, 16 and 17 year old's who wish to attend the games and wish to purchase a cheaper ticket can purchase a season ticket priced at £260 ( £11:30 per game ) for the ground and £300 ( £13:04 per game )  for the blue seated areas in the main stand. We ask that you provide full ID when purchasing your season ticket and remind you that  adult general admission prices will apply to this age bracket on a matchday.

If you listen to podcast, you can make your own minds up as to if you think this was an oversight or not.
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2020, 09:28:08 PM »
Itís no oversight itís a straight forward back down.  Fan pressure maybe?

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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2020, 09:33:30 PM »
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:


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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2020, 09:37:07 PM »
Itís no oversight itís a straight forward back down.  Fan pressure maybe?

Worth noting that the website is down at the minute. Coincidence?

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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2020, 09:43:02 PM »
New website launching tomorrow Lough.

Very poor from SC on that backdown though.  He has had plenty of time to work on prices.  Then backs down on them within 24 hours.  Now we have moved up into the big time we need to see a bit more professionalism from the Chairman going forward.   

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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2020, 10:13:22 PM »
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:

That was what SC and MH were saying on their podcast.  Donít forget season tickets come at all different prices and each has a 20% vat element included in that so 600k worth of season ticket money attracts 100k of VAT so nets it down to 500k.  Based on a 40 week season thatís 12.5k a week playing budget.  Amortise over 20 players comes out with at £625 this Iím sure we have players on a lot more than that.

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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2020, 10:40:46 PM »
Mallard  £16.50 per game is only for seniors who have a season ticket

ADULT: Ground only Ė £380.... by 23 games =16.50 ish.  Unless you have a different abacus to me

Club benefits by the fans handing over the cash early.  The fan benefits by saving 2.50-3.50
Per game.  Win win
Fair enough Mallard I didn't make clear I was talking about the price for the stand Apologies

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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2020, 10:58:49 PM »
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:

I would think that there's more than just the players budget to consider.

The Club carries a large Directors loan. Probably far bigger than the amount shown in the last available accounts.

Maybe there's plans to reduce the amount owed to the Creditor. It could be that there's a need for the Creditors money to be used in other areas :dontknow:

I seem to remember that loans have to be paid back sooner or later.
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2020, 11:54:23 PM »
New website launching tomorrow Lough.

Very poor from SC on that backdown though.  He has had plenty of time to work on prices.  Then backs down on them within 24 hours.  Now we have moved up into the big time we need to see a bit more professionalism from the Chairman going forward.

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« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2020, 09:41:19 AM »
With England playing Wales at Wembley behind closed doors on Oct 8th.  It does make me wonder when the season will be allowed to start with crowds in.

Still a long time to that, and I wouldn't be surprised if come end of August they sell some tickets at a reduced capacity. France have held games with crowd, think Germany are doing same soon? And I'd expect England to follow in late August, with aim to have reduced crowds in play from late September onwards.