Backroom Staff

[NORMSKI]

With another person announced today we are certainly building a strong/large off the field team
Does anyone know if the additons from last season are employed by the club or are they doing their work voluntarily as part of a course.

[Chilvers Gordon]

Voluntary plus cash in hand where appropriate, that was recently offered but NOT taken.

[Mallard]

Voluntary people at the club have enjoyed payment, in the form of free admission.  That’s worth at least £20 this year.   No different to cash in hand is it ?

[kenny r]

Do they Mall?
 I thought the reason the guy selling the 50/50 tickets stopped at 2.55 was because he had had to pay to get into the ground and intended to watch the game.

Happy to be corrected if wrong.

[newlinnet2019]

Do they Mall?
 I thought the reason the guy selling the 50/50 tickets stopped at 2.55 was because he had had to pay to get into the ground and intended to watch the game.

Happy to be corrected if wrong.

You're absolutely right Kenny. I saw him a few times lining up to buy a ticket when I was buying mine and was quite surprised when he told me he was buying a ticket for himself and not for someone else!

[Mallard]

I thought the 50/50 was run by FOTL not the Club directly?  Likewise I stand to be corrected.

[kenny r]

And that is why the proceeds from the 50/50 are woeful. A gate of over 4000 and a 50/50 prize either side of £200 on that day.

Sadly some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Volunteers are worth their weight in gold so treat them accordingly rather than take the juice!

[Blue_and_Gold]

Volunteers are worth their weight in gold, and need to be treated well.They need to be treated with respect. It needs to be understood that  they are volunteers and not employed staff.

Personally, I don't think that entitles them to, or should expect, any freebies such as free entry. That defeats the objective as far as I'm concerned.

[kenny r]

Sorry but I don't agree with that, full stop.
 If I volunteer to do something I am quite happy to cover my own expenses.
 I don't expect to have to pay to contribute to the organisation to help them. 

[Mallard]

Then by definition you are accepting payment, as you would be attending the event anyway.. You are doing a job for which you are being rewarded by accepting free admission.

[kenny r]

Not sure what that means Mallard. Volunteering can mean helping all sorts of organisations , very few of which would want to charge admission.
Volunteering means giving up your free time to help others, either through an organisation or to an individual.

 Why would you pay to do so?

[Mallard]

1.
a person who freely offers to take part in an enterprise or undertake a task.

2.
a person who works for an organization without being paid.

If you were attending the match anyway and received free admission then does that not mean you are receiving a gratuity ?

[gs50]

if the vouteers didn't volunteer they would have to be paid then they can use the money to buy the ticket. How's  That.

[kenny r]

That squares the circle!

[Blue_and_Gold]

Quite simple, if you're not sure simply ask the taxman.

If you receive a benefit in kind, you are not a volunteer.

Any benefits in kind are taxable, therefore anyone who receives or expects a benefit is not a volunteer (you can't be taxed for giving your time for free).

Chairmen of Trust run clubs pay for season tickets.

If someone is expecting any benefit for work they do for a club, they are not volunteering their time. They are receiving a benefit in kind.

Sorry, but I don't write the laws of the land.

I wouldn't expect any benefit in kind for any organisation I was offering my service to on a volunteer basis.