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Re: Bye in FA Cup
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2020, 08:31:28 AM »

Should have been made a condition of receiving grant. Along with a transfer embargo, whilst receiving said grant.

Reading around the forums, a view shared by many.

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2020, 10:47:42 AM »
Definitely Marcus. Christmas come early for some Chairmen.

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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2020, 11:55:38 AM »
Gordon do you not think that 3 Home games per month would generate 84Kís worth of income per month at the Walls ?   Gates of 2,000 Per game at say £15 ( nett) Average plus all the add onís.  Must equate to some where around that figure.

Itís costing in excess of a 100k per month to run the Football Club but the Chairman is quite happy to stump up the difference.

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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2020, 12:02:07 PM »
Does money go into the Club as a trading receipt?

If not, presumably it does not attract VAT unlike gate income.  :dontknow:
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2020, 12:14:09 PM »
Surely all Clubs in the 5th tier of English Football have to tested before each game.   It makes no sense if some clubs are doing the right things and some arenít. 

Iím sure we are professional enough to have regular testing at the Club.

Football league clubs donít have to do testing, why Spurs paid for Orient to be tested before they played other month. Thereíll be quite a few clubs like S****horpe today where cases will rip through the club once one gets tested after showing symptoms.

Amazed Notts County doing testing. Completely pointless when other teams wonít be.

Being a good example is hardly pointless.

The question is, should the other non league Clubs follow their lead, especially now they have the Grant money and are supposedly the centre of local communities.

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Clubs can't afford to follow I feel. Steps 1/2 full under same bracket as Championship/L1/L2, so if testing was made a mandatory to play, clubs would be pushed to financial ruin even more.

Heathrow announced rapid testing at £80 a pop (some other places it's north of £100). For a club days before each game, probably looking at what 25 tests required (at least in Steps 1/2 non league) so would be looking at say £100 a test as a figure, £2.5k outlay. Some weeks £5k outlay if 2 games. Looking at around £15k - £20k a month.

On top of wages, running costs, the grant wouldn't cover things. Should the money be increased, it should be with it going towards testing.

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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2020, 12:19:24 PM »
Non League so are you saying Clubs should be able to continue with no testing or that the Plug should be pulled on Football where testing isnít financially viable ?   Maybe to be re-started when we hopefully come out of this latest spike of cases.

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2020, 12:30:25 PM »
Non League so are you saying Clubs should be able to continue with no testing or that the Plug should be postponed  on Football where testing Isnít finically viable ?   Maybe to re-started when we hopefully come out of this latest spike of cases.

Clubs should be able to continue with no testing, because testing isn't mandatory anywhere. This 'spike' is in till early next year, with a tight calendar already, football can't afford to postpone again for 2-3 months if season wants finishing.

I think we'll see Steps 3 down leagues put on hold by sometime in November IMO. Steps 1/2 and FL will continue.

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2020, 12:41:37 PM »
Surely all Clubs in the 5th tier of English Football have to tested before each game.   It makes no sense if some clubs are doing the right things and some arenít. 

Iím sure we are professional enough to have regular testing at the Club.

Football league clubs donít have to do testing, why Spurs paid for Orient to be tested before they played other month. Thereíll be quite a few clubs like S****horpe today where cases will rip through the club once one gets tested after showing symptoms.

Amazed Notts County doing testing. Completely pointless when other teams wonít be.

Being a good example is hardly pointless.

The question is, should the other non league Clubs follow their lead, especially now they have the Grant money and are supposedly the centre of local communities.

:dontknow:

Clubs can't afford to follow I feel. Steps 1/2 full under same bracket as Championship/L1/L2, so if testing was made a mandatory to play, clubs would be pushed to financial ruin even more.

Heathrow announced rapid testing at £80 a pop (some other places it's north of £100). For a club days before each game, probably looking at what 25 tests required (at least in Steps 1/2 non league) so would be looking at say £100 a test as a figure, £2.5k outlay. Some weeks £5k outlay if 2 games. Looking at around £15k - £20k a month.

On top of wages, running costs, the grant wouldn't cover things. Should the money be increased, it should be with it going towards testing.

There's lots of business's that are required to do things that they can't afford to do. They have to get on with it regardless and find the money from somewhere if they wish to stay in business. For example in lots of other business's, people have to pay for such things as Indemnity Insurance, and obtain certain qualifications and certificates (usually at their own cost)  etc, before they are allowed to even enter a place of work. Maybe the players should contribute, especially if "we are all in this together". I won't hold my breath on that one, even though they are the ones that are most likely to be at risk, and in a majority of cases, its their second source of income.

There's always options, rather than just saying no. "No" is the easy way out. It would be nice to know what the true cost of rapid testing is. I'm not disputing what has been read about it being £80 to £100, but the Club could make their own enquiries to get the exact cost rather than taking what the Press are stating.

So, let's say there's no positive tests at the Walks. Just think what a positive point it would be when trying to make a case and get supporters back into the ground, or if there is talk of stopping the season. Why should the Government even consider changing their point of view on this when Clubs are not doing enough to protect their staff and anyone they come into contact with.

To reduce costs, they could look at ways to cut down on the "essential staff" for a start. Any "volunteers" that wish to help the Club could then pay for their own tests.

It looked to me as if Norwich had less "essential staff" in their Stand than Lynn did. How's that work?

Deliah had her restaurants open at Carrow Road yesterday, but it was quite clear that if people wanted to watch the game, it would be in the Lounge and on TV and not in the stand.



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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2020, 01:29:23 PM »
I think we'll see Steps 3 down leagues put on hold by sometime in November IMO. Steps 1/2 and FL will continue.

Very likely. Although lots of negative results from testing could avoid that.

Why close it down when it can be proven that its safe.

On the other hand, why allow it to continue when they can't prove its safe?   :dontknow:
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2020, 03:42:06 PM »
As you say b&g....there looked to be several "people" in the stands again last night. And not all stewards as they could be seen at the bottom of the stand in their hi-viz vests.
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Re: Bye in FA Cup
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2020, 09:09:33 PM »
Definitely Marcus. Christmas come early for some Chairmen.

Very true Chilly. I thought the grants were for clubs too survive the pandemic. Not prosper from it.