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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2021, 11:23:57 AM »
Rather than jeopardise the future of the Football club, and with no relegation.  Why doesnít SC furlough the contract players, release the non Contract players and just play the Reserve team players.   Least that way the Club can limp through to the end of the season then hopefully be in a position to regroup in readiness for that start of next season.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2021, 12:07:10 PM »
Rather than jeopardise the future of the Football club, and with no relegation.  Why doesnít SC furlough the contract players, release the non Contract players and just play the Reserve team players.   Least that way the Club can limp through to the end of the season then hopefully be in a position to regroup in readiness for that start of next season.

Billericay Town on Saturday's match:

"To maintain a financially stable position, and to ensure that our contracted players can remain furloughed with income, we'll be fielding a team comprising of our existing 5 non-contracted players & our u23 side".


Would they be allowed to do this under the present lockdown? If the Reserves are self employed in their capacity as Reserve players, then maybe. If they are just doing it for sport, and not receiving an income, surely they would be breaking lockdown rules?   :dontknow:

Non-elite players playing in an Elite league? Or do they automatically become Elite as soon as they are picked for the first team?  :dontknow:
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2021, 12:42:11 PM »
where does it say there is no relegation.Looking at SC twitter he has applied for a Grant. I think crunch will come when teams are turned down for grants league would then have no option but to curtail season.

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2021, 12:59:47 PM »
If, as seems likely that the NLN& NLS are pulled and season declared null and avoid then there would be no Promotion.  No promotion to the NL = no relegation from the NL.

SC has stated he has applied for a Gov loan ( todayís LN).  I was of the understanding Clubs had to apply for a loan first.  Once turned down for a loan then clubs can apply for a grant to save the club going out of business.   

Surely if things have got this bad then the Club should look at some severe short term cuts.

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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2021, 01:10:00 PM »
That I think is exactly what the issue is from the governments perspective......IF things are really this bad......when they see the last grant handed out being spent on transfers and lord only knows what wages.......they probably are right to be sceptical.....as B&G said in a previous post there's enough money sloshing about in football for this to be sorted in house.....it looks like whether the season at NL level ends or continues is going to come down to a bit of brinkmanship between the government and chairmen/owners.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2021, 01:22:55 PM »
That I think is exactly what the issue is from the governments perspective......IF things are really this bad......when they see the last grant handed out being spent on transfers and lord only knows what wages.......they probably are right to be sceptical.....as B&G said in a previous post there's enough money sloshing about in football for this to be sorted in house.....it looks like whether the season at NL level ends or continues is going to come down to a bit of brinkmanship between the government and chairmen/owners.
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Why should the Govt give them grant money, when the NL won't do it themselves?

I seem to remember that the NL had access to funds which they could distribute to the clubs in any form they wished, but they wanted it back so were only prepared to arrange it via loans. The repayment would have been taken from future prize money. Not ideal, but surely a workable plan.

Lets not forget many of the Clubs were struggling financially before the Pandemic started. A self made crisis in many cases. If any grants are made available, hopefully the "open books" policy when applying for grants, will sort  those out with a genuine need and those who were already on the brink due to "living the dream".

My thoughts are that its time for football to help itself.

 
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2021, 01:30:52 PM »
I remember our owner saying it was time for a reset before a ball was kicked in terms of playing budgets etc.   What did he do ?  Sod all just steamed ahead spunking 84k a month on a playing budget that sees us with a 21 man squad and sitting 4th bottom.

Sometimes you reap what you sow. 

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2021, 01:38:31 PM »
I remember our owner saying it was time for a reset before a ball was kicked in terms of playing budgets etc.   What did he do ?  Sod all just steamed ahead spunking 84k a month on a playing budget that sees us with a 21 man squad and sitting 4th bottom.

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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2021, 03:54:37 PM »
No sympathy with Cleeve and King's Lynn situation, because everyone knew the situation going into this season would be financially tough. Instead of looking long term and keeping majority of squad who were on a lower wage, and going with what you got, they joined the mentality that every club has at this level, spend and aim high. There was no way with what they were spending from soon as promotion was secured, with just safety in mind, they were aiming higher. Season has been a near failure, so they're now trying to rescue situation. No doubt had Lynn been closer to play offs, Cleeve would be powering ahead.

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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2021, 04:02:07 PM »

Surely if things have got this bad then the Club should look at some severe short term cuts.

What, like thousands of other businessís have had to do?
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2021, 04:38:28 PM »
Given the huge mistake by the NL in them thinking they had gov  funds through to the end of March. If Kings Lynn were to go bankrupt and a prepack deal was done with say the Trust, another group of investors  or indeed SC himself.  Would it still be a two tier relegation process ?

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2021, 05:17:34 PM »
Won't happen.

The Government has said it won't see clubs go the wall.

So it's important that clubs look after themselves until the results of the grants are known......so refuse to play till then as many clubs are doing. The weather will help with this......Tuesday' game is likely to be off due to snow /freezing pitch and its then a further week till the next scheduled game.

If the NL wants to continue after that it will be necessary for clubs to be able to field the same strength they have for the first half of the season.... otherwise it makes a mockery of the second half........so there will have to be grants for some or a decision from on high to just null and void......which is probably what needs to happen to put an end to all this bickering and in fighting between clubs. No one can claim they have a right to promotion when the season is still less than half played. The more games are played from now on the stronger the arguments for clubs positional rights.

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2021, 06:27:29 PM »
Won't happen.

The Government has said it won't see clubs go the wall.



I think that very much depends how you read that.

If the Govt offers a loan and Club's refuse to accept it, what can the Govt do?

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