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Re: Dover
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2021, 01:44:04 PM »

Would a 40k fine and a 12 point deduction have been a better deal ?

Difficult one to answer. Best for who?

The Club, or the person that owns it?

Lots of different matters to take into account on that one, and of course when the decision was made nobody knew what punishment Dover would receive.

Similar regarding any loan, and if the Lender takes a charge on Clubs assets. Would it be best for the Club, best for the Chairman, or could it even be the best course of action for both Club and Chairman at same time.  :dontknow:

If the loan was repaid during the current owners tenure (doubtful), then fair enough. Leaving it behind to be repaid by others wil probably not sit comfortably with lots of supporters.

Then there's the important question with regards what any loan money will be used for.

Lots of issues still to be resolved. Lots of decisions still to be made.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2021, 01:52:13 PM »
If the lender takes a charge on the Clubs assets in Lynn’s case does that include the lease or is that in SC’s name ?

I agree no one could have  2nd guessed what punishment would be handed out to Dover. It could be argued that now the precedent has been set would it be worth some other clubs now pulling the plug on their season rather than take on a massive loan ?

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2021, 01:52:55 PM »
Thought I read that with a loan a debenture would be required.

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Re: Dover
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2021, 02:00:10 PM »
If the lender takes a charge on the Clubs assets in Lynn’s case does that include the lease or is that in SC’s name ?

Not 100% sure but I believe lease is in name of Lynn FC Ltd.

It could also be possible that the Council would have to give their permission for any charge being put on it. It would be a really stupid lease as far as Council are concerned if they didn't include that clause.

So that begs another question. If a Lender wants security of all Clubs assets, and the Council will not agree to it (that's If they have to agree to it), where's that leave any loan application?   

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Re: Dover
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2021, 02:12:27 PM »
Lynn News article:



King's Lynn's playing budget in the National League likely to be hit for next season, says chairman
 
Stephen Cleeve says being forced to see out the remainder of the National League season will have a detrimental effect on the club's budget for next season.

The King's Lynn Town owner is being forced to take out a loan with Sport England and part company with some oh his own personal assets to keep the club afloat with no fans – and very little income – coming through the turnstiles.

Cleeve met with manager Ian Culverhouse and director of football Robbie Back to discuss plans for next season on Thursday.

Talking on 606, Five Live's original football phone-in show, on Saturday night, Cleeve said: "I had a meeting with manager Ian Culverhouse last week to discuss next season.

"We didn't touch on the budget, we just spoke about the players he wanted. The budget is at the back of my mind and what is happening will change things.


"At the moment the loans are still in the system and there's a lot of paperwork involved. Until I know how much we're able to borrow off Sport England, I won't know what our budget will be for next year.

"But it will certainly have a detrimental effect on us, there's no question about that."


The Linnets are already operating with a threadbare squad with the majority of their first-team playing staff being placed on furlough.

A handful of players – including former Norwich City striker Simeon Jackson – have already come to the club’s rescue during troubled times by playing for next-to-nothing, but Lynn's chairman is still feeling the financial bite because of the decision to carry on playing.

"On a personal level, I've had to sell assets which I didn't want to sell, nothing to do with the football club," admitted Cleeve.

"I saw a land rover, which I'd had for many disappear out of my garage today (Saturday) because I had to get some money in to pay the bills and it's not fair to put us in this position."

Meanwhile Cleeve says that he has every sympathy with Dover Athletic after being punished for failing to meet their fixture obligations this season.

Dover have said they are unable to complete the season due to a lack of finances an independent panel has ruled that the Whites have been guilty of four breaches of Rule 8.39 for failing to play matches between February 16 and February 27.

The Whites stopped playing at the end of January and heir punishment is a 12-point deduction for the 2021/22 playing season and fine of £40,000.

The results from the 15 games they had played have been expunged, which includes Lynn's 2-0 win over them at The Walks last November.

The club have avoided relegation but will start with a minus points total next season, which kicks off in August.

Cleeve said: "I'm very much in the minority. Most other chairman and other club officials I speak to all think they should be punished with relegation.

"I'm completely of the opposite view. Dover started the season with the premise we were all promised grants and when that changed they decided to stop playing.

"From their perspective and the same applies to us too, they are going to end up with a huge debt for many years just for completing the season.

"I don't think Dover should have been punished, but from the league's point of view if they didn't punish them then Dover will be in a far stronger financial situation for not playing but equally I don't think the season should have started."

Lynn have been found guilty by an Independent panel of a breach of The National League’s Covid-19 protocols in relation to defender Aaron Jones back in January.

A statement from the National League read: "Season 2020/21 had started under restrictions imposed to help control the spread of Covid-19 virus.

"In order to ensure the season could continue safely, the National League had developed a number of protocols with club process flow charts which were to be followed by clubs.

"The Panel imposed a 12-month suspended fine of £2,000 on King’s Lynn Town for an unintentional error, considered to be in the best efforts to ensure a fixture was played.

"The club were warned for their future conduct in relation to Covid-19 protocols, with the suspended fine only to be issued if the Club is found guilty of a further breach of Covid-19 protocols.

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Re: Dover
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2021, 03:25:27 PM »
Very little income coming through the turntyles?I didn't think there should be any income coming through turnstiles at the moment.
Is that a error or a comment on the amount of people there yesterday,as it seemed to be a reasonable gate all things considered.
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Re: Dover
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2021, 05:10:04 PM »
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14479914/dover-athletic-punished-covid/

Not a publication I would usually read, but I wholeheartedly agree with this

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Re: Dover
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2021, 07:32:22 PM »

Just GOOGLE

www.thesun/sport/14479914

as the link won't work from this forum site.

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Re: Dover
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2021, 07:51:26 PM »
Google finds a reference to the article but the Google link doesn't work. It seems The Sun has deleted the page.

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2021, 08:09:18 PM »
The link from Google doesn't work either.

Just checked and although it's not a direct link it does bring up an article headlined

"National league dishing out punishment to small kent club" which you then have to click on.

 Hope that helps.  :dontknow:

 

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