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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2021, 07:34:43 PM »
I meant to add that I like Kes’s idea of contracted players having to stay at their clubs throughout a season, and not being allowed to move to another club until it is over.

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« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2021, 02:23:07 PM »
Some on here are pointing out that money buys progress, and many clubs use it, then subsequently lose it.  My point is more about football than about the cash angle, though I realise the link.  I believe every team does a “Chesterfield”, all the time.  All teams are formed by taking on players who didn’t quite make it in a bigger and more talented team, plus nicking the best players from below.  It describes the whole system since it started at the turn of the 20th century.  Stephen Cleeve is the first one whose generosity has enabled us to make any real progress within that system.

Hi Dilly.

I wouldn't disagree with most of your post, apart from the last sentence.

Generosity is not the way I would describe it but it's easily proven how "generous" previous owners have also been over the years, with the Clubs that have carried  the Town's name and played at the Walks.

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« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2021, 02:53:09 PM »
I really enjoy this forum for the differing viewpoints.......I am chuckling to myself having read Dilly's post and B &G's reply in relation to it !

I disagree with most of dear Dilly's post and infact have most sympathy with the last sentence  :laughcry:

There are certain wealthy teams who do build their teams by largely creaming off the best from clubs around them in the same league,which is personally what I felt Chesterfield did a fair bit of last season, but not too many. Most have a combination of locally found/academy players, plus a few promising players from lower leagues and foreign leagues, and then some from other sides in the same league.

Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.

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« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2021, 02:54:28 PM »
I am assuming we will have news of the signings in the next 48 hrs ?

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« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2021, 04:25:36 PM »
Yes has to be any day now KES. One looks very interesting.

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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2021, 06:11:27 PM »
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Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.

I'll give you the money theory.

Let's hope it doesn't stop flowing in (or that it already has).

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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2021, 06:25:38 PM »
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.

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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2021, 06:58:09 PM »

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.


I'm all for it!

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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2021, 07:14:53 PM »
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Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.

I'll give you the money theory.

Let's hope it doesn't stop flowing in (or that it already has).

Yes will be interesting to see what level budgets are at for the coming season

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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2021, 07:16:15 PM »
Yes has to be any day now KES. One looks very interesting.

You big tease Mall ! :laughcry:

It's an exciting time this as the squad has a complete rebuild

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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2021, 07:19:18 PM »
Yes Mall, re the income streams, we do need to see improvements all round...maybe the FOTL is about to morph into a supporters club which will expand to be worthy of the name and the current level

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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2021, 07:51:12 PM »
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.
Mallard there was a superb Commercial department and supporters club 15 or so years ago but despite large sums raised the club still went tits up!

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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2021, 08:22:03 PM »
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.
Mallard there was a superb Commercial department and supporters club 15 or so years ago but despite large sums raised the club still went tits up!

I remember it well. Really puts our current efforts to shame.

IMHO, a perfect example of why Supporters Clubs should get a say as to where the money raised is being spent, and not just hand it over to the owners to do with as they see fit.
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« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2021, 08:26:12 PM »
Yes, absolutely agree. Maybe there is a possibility (albeit slim) that if we have a decent Supporters Club and The Trust and between them they generate decent sums, that there just be a little bit more supporters input in the running of the club

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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2021, 08:44:48 PM »
That’s external.   Those on the inside have the real power to generate some serious money.

I seem to recall that during our promotion year from the NLN there were weeks when SC was on Twitter begging for a match sponsor and even on the odd occasion that even failed.

The Commercial dept really do need to step up to the plate this coming season.  Talk the Talk and Walk the Walk.


 

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