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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2021, 07:59:10 AM »
No reason why the Academy set up can't do the same........ it's just a name at the end of the day.

So for the club I think it makes perfect sense........no use comparing with the good old days........."the times they are a changing".........indeed HAVE changed

My only concern would be that there needs to be a vehicle for Lynn youngsters who  are around Thurlow Nunn standard to play at that level.........but I am sure something will spring up over time.

However, I don't feel it should be incumbent on the club to provide this. Mr C's comment above about losing talent to the likes of Fakenham etc, indicates to me that maybe something new does need to form..........KLTFC are no.longer a little local entity and probably can't afford to spread their cloth so thinly to cover such bases in current climes, I would respectfully suggest.

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2021, 09:03:49 AM »
Club statement:
"As part of a restructure process within the football department the decision has been taken to withdraw the club’s teams from both the Thurlow Nunn Football League (step 6) and the Thurlow Nunn Youth League competitions with immediate effect.

The football club formally informed the Thurlow Nunn League of it’s decision to withdraw it’s teams from both of their competitions by e-mail late on Monday evening, with the club receiving formal acknowledgement by return e-mail from the league late Tuesday afternoon.

The decision has not been taken lightly, with the lack of a venue to both play and train for matches being a major stumbling block. Another reason is the fact that most of the players for both teams either are or will be enrolled in the club’s highly successful Academy partnership with KES which will see an Under 19’s team competing in the National League’s Under 19 Alliance competition, meaning we wouldn’t have the resources to compete in all competitions in a way which would effectively benefit all players. The Academy side will represent the club in next season’s FA Youth Cup competition.

The club will ,of course, do all they can within their powers to assist the small number of players who are left without a club following the decision made."

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2021, 09:21:35 AM »
Think that's fairly comprehensive.

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2021, 02:06:07 PM »
How many of last years Reserve team are now not part of this year’s Academy?

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2021, 02:43:41 PM »
I assume Joe Gascoigne and Flo are too old so would either find another club or go out on loan?
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2021, 03:52:39 PM »
How many of last years Reserve team are now not part of this year’s Academy?

Yes will be interesting to find out.

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2021, 04:54:33 PM »
Name some players over the years who came through  reserves.

Mark Howard 80s Andy Hunt 90s both went on to play football league.

Defty bros would have played a lot of res football before breaking into the first team.

We've also seen many reserves step up to effectively become the first team for short or not so short spells over the years when a manager has left and a large swathe of his first team have followed him!

But as others have said never has the gap between first and reserves in terms of divisions been as great as it is now. How many other full time National league sides have a second string playing in a step 6 league? The times are a changing at the Walks for sure.

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2021, 05:21:40 PM »
Seems a reasonable decision based on the modern football landscape, if anything it is probably a year or two too late - very few of our counterparts at NLN had reserve sides, not even the full time outfits.  As others have said the gap it too wide between step 6 and step 1/2 and far better for a promising academy player to go out on loan to step 3 for a season than play a year at step 6 with the (slim) possibility of getting the odd game on the bench.  Thus if the reserves aren't in a position to provide a viable stepping stone for players then you can reasonably ask what is the point of running them?

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2021, 06:54:36 PM »
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Name some players over the years who came through  reserves.

Mark Howard 80s Andy Hunt 90s both went on to play football league.

Defty bros would have played a lot of res football before breaking into the first team.

We've also seen many reserves step up to effectively become the first team for short or not so short spells over the years when a manager has left and a large swathe of his first team have followed him!

But as others have said never has the gap between first and reserves in terms of divisions been as great as it is now. How many other full time National league sides have a second string playing in a step 6 league? The times are a changing at the Walks for sure.

 :farmer: :oldman" Shaun Frowhawk, many reserve games and a few for the 1st team.

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2021, 08:37:08 PM »
Right or wrong probably depends on what people's opinions are regarding what a Reserve team is for.

If its solely there as a stepping stone to first team football, then yes the gap is too big.

A club that claims it works in, and is an important part of the community, may look at things differently.

I would also assume that Academy teams not taking part in a league, would earn the Club money.

A Reserve team playing in Thurlow Nunn would presumably cost the Club money.

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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2021, 08:58:37 PM »
Name some players over the years who came through  reserves.
Dom Dwyer USA international, Mark Heath Preston and the lad Nicholls now enjoying an amazing lifestyle in the States. Just to name a few.

Mark Howard 80s Andy Hunt 90s both went on to play football league.

Defty bros would have played a lot of res football before breaking into the first team.

We've also seen many reserves step up to effectively become the first team for short or not so short spells over the years when a manager has left and a large swathe of his first team have followed him!

But as others have said never has the gap between first and reserves in terms of divisions been as great as it is now. How many other full time National league sides have a second string playing in a step 6 league? The times are a changing at the Walks for sure.

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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2021, 09:29:55 PM »
"At the end of the day Saint," it all boils down to change... people generally tend to be resistant to change when it upsets their long established view of how things should ideally be.

A combination of successive promotions and the impacts of Covid are presenting clubs and fans alike with plenty of challenges, as things inevitably have to be "re-set".

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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2021, 09:43:53 PM »
Interestingly if you use the Andy Hunt scenario he would have never played for Lynn with today’s MO.

He was too old for the Academy and with no Reserve team in place he would have had to play his football elsewhere before moving into the Professional game with Newcastle, West Brom and Charlton.

Be interesting to understand what the powers that be deem will be classed as successful with the Academy.

Would value Beardsmore opinion on that one.

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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2021, 10:05:01 PM »
If I remember correctly Andy Hunt went  straight  into  the first team and didn't play many before he went to Kettering. As a good guide Carey came to us at 19 so finishing at under 19s should be OK.

 

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