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« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2021, 11:39:51 AM »
Mallard, baby steps are definitely not the answer. We need bloody great strides.  You and I both know the current situation is dire.  The business is insolvent with unmanageable debt.  Revenue is below expected and likely to fall even further during the winter months.  Going full time is a colossal drain on funds and coupled with ever increasing costs such as travelling, power etc., the financial future looks very bleak indeed.  My background is financial and Iíve seen this scenario played out many times and is somewhat prevalent with one man bands.  Their ego surpasses reality and they plough on regardless of what is going on around them, generally headlong into the abyss.  Instead of seeking help earlier when the business might have been salvageable, they donít. They listen to no one. This in my opinion is where we are now.  It might be that Cleeve has something up his sleeve but I would be amazed if he managed to find another investor.  He has already said he would not put anymore funds in.  In my view, he cannot make further extortionate demands on the fans.  Maybe he has some fantastic solution he is going to enlighten you with tonight.  As Iíve said previously, optimism is a wonderful thing in the right circumstances. Iím not sure this is it.




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« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2021, 01:47:02 PM »
Mallard, baby steps are definitely not the answer. We need bloody great strides.  You and I both know the current situation is dire.  The business is insolvent with unmanageable debt.  Revenue is below expected and likely to fall even further during the winter months.  Going full time is a colossal drain on funds and coupled with ever increasing costs such as travelling, power etc., the financial future looks very bleak indeed.  My background is financial and Iíve seen this scenario played out many times and is somewhat prevalent with one man bands.  Their ego surpasses reality and they plough on regardless of what is going on around them, generally headlong into the abyss.  Instead of seeking help earlier when the business might have been salvageable, they donít. They listen to no one. This in my opinion is where we are now.  It might be that Cleeve has something up his sleeve but I would be amazed if he managed to find another investor.  He has already said he would not put anymore funds in.  In my view, he cannot make further extortionate demands on the fans.  Maybe he has some fantastic solution he is going to enlighten you with tonight.  As Iíve said previously, optimism is a wonderful thing in the right circumstances. Iím not sure this is it.

He needs a few more of these anonymous 25k main stand sponsorship deal.

Good work that one.
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« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2021, 01:58:50 PM »
NW.  With a fans forum programmed to last 60 minutes what else but baby steps can be achieved ?   To think that people will see any form of solution in that period of time is being unrealistic.

As for SC saying he wouldnít be prepared/able to continue funding it.  Well in fairness he has said many things in the past that maybe havenít been delivered.

Hopefully with SC calling this meeting he is realising some of what you are saying NW.   Whether it can be salvaged or not I think we should at least give the guy a chance to put his case.   Letís not seal the coffin lid down just yet.

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« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2021, 02:10:29 PM »
Couldnít agree more Mallard this constant slagging off of S C IMO is getting us nowhere

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« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2021, 02:43:08 PM »
Mr Hill, the facts are painful arenít they.  Iím not so sure they are tantamount to slagging anyone off as you put it.  Iím just amazed how well you obviously think Cleeve is doing and your undying support.  It is to be commended and you should be very proud of what your doing.  In my view you are misguided but what the hell do I know.  I really really hope you make a difference.  Realistically I think your tenure will eventually turn to exasperation in the same way as others who have tried to proffer help.  One thing I can assure you, if you donate any of the funds raised in support of the incumbent owner it will be good money after bad.

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« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2021, 03:11:03 PM »
NW.  Have to agree that whatever funds are raised wonít go anywhere what is needed. 

It is difficult to understand where the Club is in terms of money with loans both internal and external and the shuffling around of companies that seems to appear each year.  I am just hoping that SC is basically on top of all of this and he has a plan in place to involve the fans, sponsors and outside investors to keep the clubs head above water.

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« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2021, 03:18:03 PM »
Here we go again Malcolm.

People are not slagging him off. In fact more than one has said he needs to be given this chance.

Just because people have different opinions than others (although I believe itís very clear which way that opinion is now swinging), Iíve seen nothing (at least nothing we have allowed through) that fits the title of slagging off.

You have to remember that there are some very worried and concerned people out there who believe they shouldnít be playing the fiddle while Rome burns. They have seen it all before, some more than once. You canít blame them for being concerned or voicing their concerns.

Read Caneys post in YLP. Itís very interesting and probably demonstrates the way many supporters feel, irrespective of them using social media to vent their frustrations or not.

It also, as some at the Club try to make out to support their own personal agendas, does not mean they are anti club. Far, far from it!
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« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2021, 03:25:48 PM »
Here is some of what Caney said in YLP

Ticket prices

You can dress it up however you want. The rot set in as soon as it was confirmed the Linnetsí season ticket prices were going to be the most expensive in the top-tier of non-League football this term.

It hasnít got any better with seating prices coming in at £26 and £23 for adults, £21 for concessions and £11 for those aged 16 and under. Itís not family friendly. Is it any wonder people are having to pick and choose their games?

Matchday experience

Saturdayís match felt like I was attending a pre-season friendly Ė no atmosphere, a soulless bar with giant half-time queues and overpriced food that you had to walk through the away section to buy. Attending a matchday is about much more than the football and right now being at The Walks leaves you feeling short changed.

The chairman

Stephen Cleeve is entitled to his opinion. The problem is when youíre freely giving yours out, you have to accept people will disagree with you or potentially grow to dislike you.

Thereís a way to communicate with, and talk about, fans and as someone who works in PR, Lynnís chairman needs a crash course in how not to alienate people through his choice of words.




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« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2021, 03:37:40 PM »
Here is done of what Caney said in YLP

Ticket prices

You can dress it up however you want. The rot set in as soon as it was confirmed the Linnetsí season ticket prices were going to be the most expensive in the top-tier of non-League football this term.

It hasnít got any better with seating prices coming in at £26 and £23 for adults, £21 for concessions and £11 for those aged 16 and under. Itís not family friendly. Is it any wonder people are having to pick and choose their games?

Matchday experience

Saturdayís match felt like I was attending a pre-season friendly Ė no atmosphere, a soulless bar with giant half-time queues and overpriced food that you had to walk through the away section to buy. Attending a matchday is about much more than the football and right now being at The Walks leaves you feeling short changed.

The chairman

Stephen Cleeve is entitled to his opinion. The problem is when youíre freely giving yours out, you have to accept people will disagree with you or potentially grow to dislike you.

Thereís a way to communicate with, and talk about, fans and as someone who works in PR, Lynnís chairman needs a crash course in how not to alienate people through his choice of words.

I stopped going after I turned up with £90 worth of wins for the 12th man scheme, then named in the programme the very next match as someone who wants the club to fail. He named Setch and Gavin Caney as well.

Not been back since.

It pains me to watch what's happening, really it does.

I still keep up to date through newspapers, this forum and social media,  but Cleeve wont be getting a penny off of me until I read a full, public apology.

Been waiting 4 years now.

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« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2021, 07:55:16 PM »
As from Tuesday Night the price on the Gate at kings Lynn F C the entry fee will be £18 adults £16 for concessions children £5

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« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2021, 08:01:23 PM »
Good to hear and a sensible move I agree 
Is it a bad time to mention season ticket holders?

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« Reply #71 on: October 01, 2021, 08:03:10 PM »
Well done Malcolm.  Thankfully the owner has started to see the error of his ways.   Will the season ticket holders be offered a refund on the difference ?  Though Iím
Sure most , if not all will donate it to the Club.

Does the £18 include the £1 toward the loan repayment, Malc ?

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« Reply #72 on: October 01, 2021, 08:09:26 PM »
A Catering Manager is to be employed

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« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2021, 08:17:10 PM »
What about price for seating

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« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2021, 08:20:54 PM »
Well done Malcolm.  Thankfully the owner has started to see the error of his ways.   Will the season ticket holders be offered a refund on the difference ?  Though Iím
Sure most , if not all will donate it to the Club.

Does the £18 include the £1 toward the loan repayment, Malc ?

Good suggestion Mallard
Have just written to Zoe to say I don't want a refund even if it was being considered
Happy to leave it in the club

 

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