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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2021, 03:02:40 PM »
I would say that Wrexham and Chesterfield have the strongest attacks in the league, when  all fit.
To have lost 2-4 to them , having lost a couple of key defenders, wouldn't have been a terrible result, if we weren't so lowly in the league. The two goals in added on time obviously exaggerated things.
However, to go from 1-1 to 1-4 so quickly is a massive cause for concern.

Football is of course all about opinions, but if we kept the players that are there and added 3

A central defender, a midfielder capable of breaking the line and a recognised goal scorer at this level, I think we would have a side capable of breaking into the top half over a full season and maybe just capable of avoiding relegation, if they joined in thenext 6 games.
All 3need to be really experienced....a few older heads are required....Lynn have such a young side.

Do we have the contacts or money to get the 3 in.in time...very doubtful

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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2021, 04:22:38 PM »
Think you have to sack Culverhouse, and get someone else in if you want to compete at this level. Some of the signings this season, suggest Cleeve wants to be at this level, so he now needs to bite the bullet and fork out the compensation.

Said it last season, for the quality that's been returned for money spent, club should've kept the side that got up and only added 3-4 players.

Ok so we sack Culverhouse.  Then what ?  IC left last time and look what the Chairman brought to the club.  Hardly inspiring was it.  Luckily. Back and Fryatt steadied the ship and Back had the foresight to broker a deal to bring IC back.

Just sometimes we need to careful what we wish for.

Going down the Man Utd road, sticking with current situation because of being scared of previous times. It's clearly not working on the pitch, signs were there last season. Why persist just because the replacement last time was bad?

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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2021, 04:34:22 PM »
If I were S.C I would leave twitter alone...he has been absolutely demolished by fans ...Wrexham and Lynn not good reading.He is getting quite a reputation.

I don't think he is overly concerned about a reputation.
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« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2021, 07:24:48 PM »
This has been a good debate! No easy answer and we all have our own views. I think we all agree something has to change to move forward.  Over the years I've always thought King's Lyyn should be in the main football League, maybe just a dream but other clubs have done it! At this time I'd settle for making ourselves known in this Div and staying here.

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« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2021, 08:12:53 PM »
At this time I'd settle for making ourselves known in this Div and staying here.

I would imagine most supporters would but that's looking very doubtful. A massive task even at the start of a season let alone being in the position we are now.

Even if we drop a level, you can't build a castle on sand. Step 2 could well be a struggle for us unless lots of things change.
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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2021, 11:34:34 PM »
This is turning into a decent debate!!

Regarding the issue of Steve Cleeve being good enough for this level......it's a tricky one to answer

I've always compared Cleeve to Peter Swales, the ex Manchester City chairman (I'm a City fan, so I've experienced the "turmoil" of an unpopular chairman!!)

With Peter Swales, he became too "passionate", his obsession to become bigger than utd clouded his decision making and I think Cleeve's obsession with trying to achieve league football, often clouds his judgement of where we are as a club.

I also think the same with some fans' expectations - some thought we would "walk this tinpot league" - not the case, a realistic and successful season would be to finish fourth from bottom.

Another question here is "which players aren't good enough"
For me, they are all obviously "decent" players, but it's how they apply themselves and the desire they show (or not) to win.
As I've previously said, I'm not the biggest fan of Michael Clunan, but this season, he has applied himself superbly and has been one of the better players, the same with Ross Barrows, the same with Aaron Jones - there is a theme appearing here as these are the players who seem to have more of an "affinity" with the club.

I'm not saying the newer signings play to lose, but I question their desire, especially when they know they will pick up their contracted wages regardless of the result - I (we) want players who will go above and beyond in pursuit of 3 points - take Rory McCauly, I always thought he would run through a wall for the manager/thisclub/us fans/himself.........could the same be said for some of the newer players??

I started a thread on here a few weeks back, questioning what is actually done during the week in full time training.
The thread had many views, but no responses, but I ask the question again as it sometimes looks like these lot are strangers rather than a "close knit bunch" which is often the line thrown out after (another) defeat

So, IMHO and it is only an opinion, I think we should stick with IC for the forseeable especially as he has taken the blame for Saturday's defeat and said things will change, so he's worth continuing to have our trust
The chairman - needs to back IC 100%
The backroom staff - need to take a look at themselves.....and back IC 100%
The players - need to take a look at themselves and be willing to "die for the shirt"
Then we, as fans, who will still be here long after anyone else, will back all of the above........because as I said in my original post, football is an emotional sport and whether "we" like it or not, we're stuck with the club!!

It's the club we love

Sorry for the long post.

Finally and on a much lighter note, my other comparison between Peter Swales and Steven Cleeve........their haircuts!!
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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2021, 08:46:39 AM »
Thank you for the post.  We moved to the area several months ago and my children play in the Kings Lynn junior teams and we've been to all but 1 home game.  Your post gives me a lot of background as to the state of the play.  As a complete new comer who doesn't know the Chairman or manager I'm not as emotionally involved as others but my take is this: the football philosophy of the manager (and maybe its that of the Chairman too) cannot be executed with the current players in the squad.  It would be like Pep Guardiola trying to implement his style on Burnley.  Your style of play needs to be built of the players you have.   If he wants to constantly play from the back he needs a new squad, if a new squad cannot be bought in he needs to change his style.  The team is trying to play like Man City whilst getting battered in the National League whilst in a relegation spot. It doesn't make sense.  We just can't keep putting the players under pressure at the back.  I think the team is good enough to beat relegation if tactics are adjusted to play to their strengths.  Obviously a new striker is needed  but outside of that the team can compete.  Morias wasn't anywhere near good enough so selling him isn't an excuse at all.   I guess my view is change the style of play or change the manager if we are sticking with this group of players.  Whatever happens my boys love coming to the games and we will continue to be there to support. 

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« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2021, 10:00:15 AM »
Thank you for the post.  We moved to the area several months ago and my children play in the Kings Lynn junior teams and we've been to all but 1 home game.  Your post gives me a lot of background as to the state of the play.  As a complete new comer who doesn't know the Chairman or manager I'm not as emotionally involved as others but my take is this: the football philosophy of the manager (and maybe its that of the Chairman too) cannot be executed with the current players in the squad.  It would be like Pep Guardiola trying to implement his style on Burnley.  Your style of play needs to be built of the players you have.   If he wants to constantly play from the back he needs a new squad, if a new squad cannot be bought in he needs to change his style.  The team is trying to play like Man City whilst getting battered in the National League whilst in a relegation spot. It doesn't make sense.  We just can't keep putting the players under pressure at the back.  I think the team is good enough to beat relegation if tactics are adjusted to play to their strengths.  Obviously a new striker is needed  but outside of that the team can compete.  Morias wasn't anywhere near good enough so selling him isn't an excuse at all.   I guess my view is change the style of play or change the manager if we are sticking with this group of players.  Whatever happens my boys love coming to the games and we will continue to be there to support.

Good and sensible post young man and welcome to the Walks to you and your family.

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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2021, 12:29:01 PM »
Just a thought. With Dean Smith going to Norwich, any better chance of getting any fringe Norwich players to help us out for a,while. I dont know what his relationship is with Smith as opposed to Farke. Just a thought.

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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2021, 06:46:31 PM »
Hopefully a positive day in the saga that is Kings Lynn FC.   

Stephen Cleeve and Ian Culverhouse met for a clear the air meeting.  Hopefully the meeting went well and they reached some kind of compromise where they can work together going forward.

Maybe SC could give the fans an update on how the meeting went ?

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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2021, 09:12:38 PM »
Hopefully a positive day in the saga that is Kings Lynn FC.   

Stephen Cleeve and Ian Culverhouse met for a clear the air meeting.  Hopefully the meeting went well and they reached some kind of compromise where they can work together going forward.

Maybe SC could give the fans an update on how the meeting went ?
 
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2021, 09:42:10 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2021, 11:05:33 AM »
Hopefully a positive day in the saga that is Kings Lynn FC.   

Stephen Cleeve and Ian Culverhouse met for a clear the air meeting.  Hopefully the meeting went well and they reached some kind of compromise where they can work together going forward.

Maybe SC could give the fans an update on how the meeting went ?

Just trawling through the internet and just came across this piece from DTFC. I thought it a bit topical so thought I would post it on here:


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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2021, 01:25:06 PM »
Once again, the silence is deafening.... be nice if news came direct from SC to the fans, when it's time.

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« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2021, 01:45:11 PM »
Once again, the silence is deafening.... be nice if news came direct from SC to the fans, when it's time.

Probably too busy on Twitter conversing with the Wrexham supporters.
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