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Loughborough Linnet

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 05:54:32 AM »
Looks like a fairly considered proposal, compared with some of the ones that have come out in recent years regarding B-Teams and the like. Wouldn't solve congestion for the premier league though.

Would be a good opportunity to reshuffle the non-league system at the same time. Make the top tier of non-league conference north and south, and insert a midland league at Step 3 & 4 (which would be 2 & 3). Easy way of cutting costs for non-league.

Mallard

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 07:44:26 AM »
Looks a good way of getting Celtic and Rangers in Via the backdoor.  Not sure that will do Scottish League Football any favours.  Without the big 2 cant see the TV rights up there being worth too much gold.

I would have thought if they did this then There should be a League 2 North and a League 2 South. 

robbo84

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2016, 10:25:07 AM »
I see arguments for and against here.

Less fixtures means less overall travel, it also (theoretically) means less average spend over the year to supporters that attend most of their club's games. This would arguably make attending games more affordable and boost attendances.

However less fixtures also equals less gate income for clubs, meaning for many a lower playing budget.

Lower playing budget and lower number of fixtures will mean clubs require smaller squads, and with 20 teams in each division there will be a higher percentage of clubs contesting promotion and relegation each year, so I don't believe it will allow clubs to bring more younger players through.

Whenever a proposed 'split' takes place, there's going to be a lot of teams relegated in order to spread out through the leagues. For example half of the clubs in League 2 and everybody below that will find themselves an extra level below the Premier League.

Whilst it's not been mentioned, I'd like to think that the additional eight clubs in the proposal would be 'promoted' from the Conference. Part of me thinks that it's another smokescreen to re-examine the B teams idea through the back door.

I'd rather more consideration was given to promoting additional clubs from the Conference to the Football League which would alleviate that bottleneck at the top of the Conference. Prior to Cheltenham this year, it was about 25 years since a team that had been relegated from the FL won the Conference at the first attempt the following season.

During the last major non-league restructure, we won the Southern League Eastern League and were 'promoted' to the Southern Premier League. Except that we weren't promoted, the league had changed it's name. We were a step 3 club in the 03/04 season and still a step 3 club in the 04/05 season. Yes I know we lost in the play-offs, but it was like teams that won leagues that year were seriously overlooked and life was made as difficult as possible for them to enter the Conference setup.

robbo84

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2016, 10:26:26 AM »
There is also a link here to a very brief survey on the changes. Note "King's Lynn Town" can be selected as your club (this came from a Luton forum and judging by the survey results so far their fans have already been busy).

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SEBo9t5u4p-v8UMUmhpdR4WgHwbuZnCcSpE5s8oHtCQ/viewform

rod

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2016, 11:46:11 AM »
I like the idea of a Midland league..as we had many years ago.

rod

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 01:23:06 PM »
Having re-read the proposal it for me illustrates once again just how out of touch are those that administrate, with particular regard to the needs and problems associated with running a club in the lower and non leagues...Not least the costs involved.....................A glaring omission is the lack of regionalisation to help offset declining gates.......Back to the days of a third division north and south by way of example, instead of a fourth and fifth league, makes a great deal more sense?

But then again when did common sense ever feature in their thinking?

somerset linnet

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 01:59:25 PM »
Totally agree Rod. A Midland league would make much more sense but as normal the proposals are geared to the status quo of the Premier league and Football league with no thought of the non league situation. The travel costs of many clubs with the exception of the London area must take a fair slice of their income and with the recent fall in gates of many clubs including the Linnets, must be a heavy burden. However I do feel that the Linnets are doing the right thing by trying to involve the the local talent which will hopefully find players which will eventually come through to the first team.

rod

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Re: Football league proposal
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2016, 04:04:49 PM »
Most of football - outside of the the different planet of the Premier League needs to take a reality check of some magnitude...........I think the downward trend of average gates (there will always be exceptions) will not be reversed and that lower league football needs to cut its coat accordingly, minimising travelling expenses and to generally run a tighter ship............but I have little or no confidence that those that govern will see the error of their previous ways.