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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2023, 07:18:19 PM »
Yes a poor result and performance, but before you call for his head I think we need to take some things into consideration. What was his brief at the start of the season, if it was to keep us up I would think he has a fair chance of succeeding once all the injured, suspended and international call ups are back. Does he have sole decision on signings if not he can only work with what he is given. By all accounts he is a very good coach, but any team losing a lot of experienced players and signing a number of replacements take time to gel, look at Chelsea.
Not all coaches make good managers there seems an obsession to blame Cleeve the buck stops at the managers feet

Well Cleeve seems happy to blame everyone else for everything so maybe he reaping what he sows ?
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2023, 07:22:31 PM »
The Sack race is under way.  Darlo gave Alun Armstrong the order of the Tin Tack this week.  At the start of 2023 Darlo sat Top of The League.   
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2023, 07:50:17 PM »


 Not all coaches make good managers there seems an obsession to blame Cleeve the buck stops at the managers feet

Ответственность ложится на председателя, а не на менеджера, если ему не предоставлены необходимые инструменты для выполнения работы. Только дурак не сможет понять, что происходит. Больше нет денег, поэтому игра окончена, и мы вернулись к тому, с чего начали, когда мистер Клив прибыл в конце этого сезона, или, может быть, даже хуже, чем до этого.

The responsibility falls on the chairman, not the manager, if he is not given the necessary tools to get the job done. Only a fool would not be able to understand what is happening. There's no more money, so it's game over and we're back where we started when Mr. Cleave arrived at the end of this season, or maybe even worse than beforeÖ..
Youíve proved my point obsession with Cleeve itís the forumís specialty bashing the owner are you still upset you didnít get your hands on the club 😂😂😂😂😂

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2023, 08:21:50 PM »
Loopy how much praise should be heaped on SC IF he managed  to return the Club to the place where  it was when he joined, but this time with it sitting £1m in the red ?    Would that have happened on the Chapman watch ?
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2023, 08:37:08 PM »
Heís simply out his depth heís got to go.

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2023, 08:52:54 PM »
I wonder if SC dispensed with Hughes service would he approach Setch to come back and have a 2nd go ?   After all he did with Culverhouse.    Then again if he did would Setch be tempted to return Ďhomeí ?   
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2023, 10:10:28 PM »
Didnít comment on present crop of players or indeed the manager, for a good while this season, when I did I said, I feel that most players are out of there depth at this level and I also feel the management are out of there depth, I feel they are good coaches but not good at managing a team. I realise we have a vastly reduced budget, but Iím  sure itís still better than lotís of clubs at our level. I personally feel Mr Cleeve has gone down the cheaper road and itís clear to see men v boys out on that pitch. Give the manager a little bit more time but changes will need to be made, if no improvements can be seen soon.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2023, 10:29:47 PM »
Loopy how much praise should be heaped on SC IF he managed  to return the Club to the place where  it was when he joined, but this time with it sitting £1m in the red ?    Would that have happened on the Chapman watch ?
see again cleeve he donít pick the team the manager do so the results and performances lay at his feet ,Simple really yet all we get is cleeve club debt ect

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2023, 10:57:27 PM »
Today was terrible.

The players looked defeated and devoid of any ideas before half time - irrespective that we were four down at that point.

Second half and an early goal, but we couldn;t build on it and what annoyed me, was when our goal went in, Hughes was gesturing to the crowd to "come on"

Yes we had just then scored, but as much as we need to get behind the team, they need to give us something to cheer - four down at half time against a team who were bottom just over a week ago, really isn;t good enough.

Hughes seems a nice enough guy, but questions have to be raised of his ability to manage King's Lynn.

Defeat next week, could see him on his way - at the same stage of the season Cleeve got rid of Simon Clark, when we failed to beat Hitchin (I think it was) at home in the cup

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2023, 01:18:58 AM »
Just a point on coaches the best Manager who never managed England was Brain Clough and he was a lousy coach,but he could get the best out of his players.Regarding tonightís performance it was the worst I have ever seen in the whole time I have surporterd Lynn but when we start shouting for Blood we have to look at the reason why  2 of the goals were defences mistakes, reason both  our full backs were missing and a centre half would they have made a difference if they had been playing well of course they would.Regarding our attacking cabilties how I  wish we had wingers in the team I know itís not the fashion nowadays to have them but I still think itís the best why to provide crosses for the centre forward  bring back a young Spriggers flying down the wing taking on and beating the fullback

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2023, 08:42:49 AM »
Whilst we were poor yesterday, the scoreline didn't really reflect the game - individual errors and a great free kick for their goals, that said we did look really fragile and we still don't have a clear identity even for a plan A, let alone much idea of how to change things when they aren't going as hoped. 

Recruitment looks a mixed bag with Oke and Cybukski looking the pick and others still to repay the managers faith in bringing them in - Spence showed glimpses yesterday and likewise with Smith on Tuesday evening when playing out of position but are they really what we needed in the middle of the park?  The real problem seems to be those who were retained from last season haven't been firing and maybe MH needs to reflect on who he can trust and then maybe finding a system that gets the most out of those players rather than just picking what are perceived to be the 'best' players and hoping they will produce something

Next weekend is a bit of a free hit for me looking at the relative form / league positions but sure SC will want a cup run so maybe more pressure on MH, hopefully with players back from international duty / injury this will allow him to make some changes

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2023, 09:37:55 AM »
Whilst we were poor yesterday, the scoreline didn't really reflect the game - individual errors and a great free kick for their goals, that said we did look really fragile and we still don't have a clear identity even for a plan A, let alone much idea of how to change things when they aren't going as hoped. 

Recruitment looks a mixed bag with Oke and Cybukski looking the pick and others still to repay the managers faith in bringing them in - Spence showed glimpses yesterday and likewise with Smith on Tuesday evening when playing out of position but are they really what we needed in the middle of the park?  The real problem seems to be those who were retained from last season haven't been firing and maybe MH needs to reflect on who he can trust and then maybe finding a system that gets the most out of those players rather than just picking what are perceived to be the 'best' players and hoping they will produce something



Next weekend is a bit of a free hit for me looking at the relative form / league positions but sure SC will want a cup run so maybe more pressure on MH, hopefully with players back from international duty / injury this will allow him to make some changes


All this players back from international duty, yes itís top class opposition but not exactly a top class team we are sending a player off to represent, get real, Gibraltar would struggle against most national league teams.

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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2023, 10:05:06 AM »
Of course itís a result driven business but the real worry is the standard of performance.  We look miles off it.   Itís 9 games into the season thatís getting on for 25%.  Hughes bangs the drum about it being a new team.  However itís a new team in full time training and should really be hitting their straps by now.

Of course we have injured  players missing, but will that suddenly turn us around from this ragbag Utd to a  team who look a force at this level. I really worry what the likes of Scunny and South Shields will do to us.   

If we donít get  a Cup run will that affect the team budget? As in has that been factored into the seasonís budget.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2023, 11:53:58 AM »
How to get the most out of the budgetÖthatís the conundrum. We need an out and out goal scorer. Markus Carver, on loan from Scunny scored more in 21 minutes yesterday than any one of our forwards has managed all season. I am assuming the highest paid are those we retained last season. Few are delivering at the momentÖÖ

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2023, 12:08:10 PM »
Btw just as an aside, Bostonís drubbing at Alfreton yesterday was all down to ICÖ..according to IC.

 

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