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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2023, 02:29:10 PM »
They also have a very capable commercial side and I think they had sponsors booked for most, if not all, fixtures for the season before the season started.  That isn't something that happens overnight and takes years of building relationships with all sizes businesses

Tony, i can recall a time when we also enjoyed a similar level of sponsorship support, which i am sure Gordon can confirm!


Please don't go round in circles with this again.......we need new initiatives, not more lamenting on what was there in the past and is now lost.

Not going round in circles, this LIAR is just stating the truth. Fully booked in the past seldom booked recently and beyond. TO EXPENSIVE by a country mile subsequently few takers and by the soiund of it those that do a deal ITS CASH.
My words to SC on the trip to Joma at Harlow
Stephen you think you have bought Chelsea. You haven't even bought anything like the Chelsea of NON LEAGUE.

It is my view that meaningful new sustainable initiatives will not be forthcoming unless there is regime change and / or a major shift in attitude.

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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2023, 04:24:46 PM »
Past managers don't work if they come back. We need someone new with a good record at this level. Even at this stage of the season the best we can hope for is staying in this division. Never did have any faith with the last set up..


Have a think on that one Anton.  Culverhouse took us to the National League during his 2nd spell at the Club with back to back promotions



Team was already in place, well most of them. Then he left. You need a stayer.   

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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2023, 05:01:54 PM »
Pink think you find the shop in Prince of Wales Road is closed.  :laughcry:

In some ways we can’t keep harping back to the ‘Good Ole Days’ with Leonard Sachs on the hammer.  No good us having a monthly bingo or Tombola  to pull in a few notes.  Those days have gone.  We have a Club with an annual 7 figure running costs with debts on the book to match.  These events are not going to scratch the surface.    We need to thinking big time.  £100k profit events 2/3 times a season.

On the flip side no harm. In looking at other aspects of the Club that have worked for us.  Part time playing module needs to work again with the right manager.  People in place like Robbie Back (excuse the pun) is Back on the tiller again.  It worked before, would do again.   Overnight stays.  Achieved sod all this season.  Another cost saving.  Go back to the way he had it.

What if the Hokey Cokey really is what it’s all about ?

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« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2023, 05:31:58 PM »
They also have a very capable commercial side and I think they had sponsors booked for most, if not all, fixtures for the season before the season started.  That isn't something that happens overnight and takes years of building relationships with all sizes businesses

Tony, i can recall a time when we also enjoyed a similar level of sponsorship support, which i am sure Gordon can confirm!


Please don't go round in circles with this again.......we need new initiatives, not more lamenting on what was there in the past and is now lost.

Not going round in circles, this LIAR is just stating the truth. Fully booked in the past seldom booked recently and beyond. TO EXPENSIVE by a country mile subsequently few takers and by the soiund of it those that do a deal ITS CASH.
My words to SC on the trip to Joma at Harlow
Stephen you think you have bought Chelsea. You haven't even bought anything like the Chelsea of NON LEAGUE.

It is my view that meaningful new sustainable initiatives will not be forthcoming unless there is regime change and / or a major shift in attitude.

Spot on Rod.

This has to change from being a one-man show that trusts so few if any, and the club to become inclusive and positive that embraces the community and welcomes any help and to become personal and passionate to every single supporter again.

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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2023, 05:43:24 PM »
Pink think you find the shop in Prince of Wales Road is closed.  :laughcry:

In some ways we can’t keep harping back to the ‘Good Ole Days’ with Leonard Sachs on the hammer.  No good us having a monthly bingo or Tombola  to pull in a few notes.  Those days have gone.  We have a Club with an annual 7 figure running costs with debts on the book to match.  These events are not going to scratch the surface.    We need to thinking big time.  £100k profit events 2/3 times a season.

On the flip side no harm. In looking at other aspects of the Club that have worked for us.  Part time playing module needs to work again with the right manager.  People in place like Robbie Back (excuse the pun) is Back on the tiller again.  It worked before, would do again.   Overnight stays.  Achieved sod all this season.  Another cost saving.  Go back to the way he had it.

Now you tell me Mall.......just returned from POW Road.........it's now either a kebab shop or  a lap dancing venue....I couldn't quite remember which building........anyways they don't take the stamps at either venue apparently  :laughcry: :laughcry:


Here, here to the rest of the post. Owners often
prefer , it seems to me, new ideas that they can modify and put their name to or call their own...and they also seem to prefer a small number of big earners to get their teeth into.

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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2023, 05:51:00 PM »
Past managers don't work if they come back. We need someone new with a good record at this level. Even at this stage of the season the best we can hope for is staying in this division. Never did have any faith with the last set up..


Have a think on that one Anton.  Culverhouse took us to the National League during his 2nd spell at the Club with back to back promotions



Team was already in place, well most of them. Then he left. You need a stayer.   

The team in place was nearly bottom of the League.

They didn't stay there very long.
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« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2023, 06:08:26 PM »
Of course any fund raiser that has potential
For bigger turnover comes with big risk but big reward.   We know SC likes to think big.  Only have to look at his pricing structures on anything he does at the Club.

It’s having that confidence to back his own judgement the first time.  Will he... won’t he ?  He mothballed it this year so next year should tell all.   I see Carrow Road has already announced half a Take That with Oli Murs.  Somewhere slightly down market from that for The Walks..... who do you guys fancy ?
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« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2023, 08:35:19 PM »
Pink think you find the shop in Prince of Wales Road is closed.  :laughcry:

In some ways we can’t keep harping back to the ‘Good Ole Days’ with Leonard Sachs on the hammer.  No good us having a monthly bingo or Tombola  to pull in a few notes.  Those days have gone.  We have a Club with an annual 7 figure running costs with debts on the book to match.  These events are not going to scratch the surface.    We need to thinking big time.  £100k profit events 2/3 times a season.

On the flip side no harm. In looking at other aspects of the Club that have worked for us.  Part time playing module needs to work again with the right manager.  People in place like Robbie Back (excuse the pun) is Back on the tiller again.  It worked before, would do again.   Overnight stays.  Achieved sod all this season.  Another cost saving.  Go back to the way he had it.

Mallard, your mention of Leonard Sachs took me back to a more innocent age. Just imagine what we are missing. If he were still in his pomp we could be booking acts like this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn83cCEpZV0

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« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2023, 10:13:32 PM »
Of course any fund raiser that has potential
For bigger turnover comes with big risk but big reward.   We know SC likes to think big.  Only have to look at his pricing structures on anything he does at the Club.

It’s having that confidence to back his own judgement the first time.  Will he... won’t he ?  He mothballed it this year so next year should tell all.   I see Carrow Road has already announced half a Take That with Oli Murs.  Somewhere slightly down market from that for The Walks..... who do you guys fancy ?
When you need to pay up front there is no chance he will think big.
To stand any chance to make 100000K profit you need to sell 3000 standing tickets at £50 minimum. 1000 seating at £75 As long as Richard and others are back at the club by then to clean the seats) There will be huge security costs, limited space for food/drink sales. Horrendous parking issues.
He hasn't got the guts to do it unless buy now, pay later. That will never happen with top acts!

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« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2023, 11:37:22 PM »


  As long as Richard and others are back at the club by then to clean the seats



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« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2023, 07:38:16 AM »
GC think SC is never afraid to take a punt.  Look at his efforts to take control of Wrexham.  Must have been a close run thing  for their supporters group.   SC on one side and Ryan Reynolds on the other.

Bet that caused a few sleepless nights.   I guess time will tell.... did they make the right choice ?

Little rumour is opening night for the concerts is a David Bowie tribute act.... Couple of lads from Oldham, Carpenter’s. Go by the name of Ziggy Sawdust.  ( Fools n Horses fans will get it)
What if the Hokey Cokey really is what it’s all about ?

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« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2023, 08:46:41 AM »
GC think SC is never afraid to take a punt.  Look at his efforts to take control of Wrexham.  Must have been a close run thing  for their supporters group.   SC on one side and Ryan Reynolds on the other.

Bet that caused a few sleepless nights.   I guess time will tell.... did they make the right choice ?

Little rumour is opening night for the concerts is a David Bowie tribute act.... Couple of lads from Oldham, Carpenter’s. Go by the name of Ziggy Sawdust.  ( Fools n Horses fans will get it)
So if its to be a tribute he would still have to pay up front and i would think £15, at most for a well known tribute £20.That will make a huge difference to the cost and take.
Much better though than the £162 to see Diana Ross at the Royal Albert Hall in October, and its nearly sold out!

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« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2023, 09:02:40 AM »
Hopefully GC Mr Cleeve Will have things finalised for Xmas so he can get tickets out for people to buy as presents. 

On your dispute with Mr Cleeve do you think it was a deliberate attempt to do your business damage or just an innocent off the cuff remark ?   I guess you soldiering on with the business anyway
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« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2023, 09:09:18 AM »
GC think SC is never afraid to take a punt.  Look at his efforts to take control of Wrexham.  Must have been a close run thing  for their supporters group.   SC on one side and Ryan Reynolds on the other.

Bet that caused a few sleepless nights.   I guess time will tell.... did they make the right choice ?

Little rumour is opening night for the concerts is a David Bowie tribute act.... Couple of lads from Oldham, Carpenter’s. Go by the name of Ziggy Sawdust.  ( Fools n Horses fans will get it)
So if its to be a tribute he would still have to pay up front and i would think £15, at most for a well known tribute £20.That will make a huge difference to the cost and take.


Nearer £30 these days but I think the cost of getting a top tribute act to the Walks would be a big surprise to Mr Cleeve.

And yes its money up front in most cases, or at least a sizable deposit.
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« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2023, 01:28:14 PM »
Corn Exchange bums on seat (indoors) likely £30.Would'nt pay that to stand outside in possibly crap weather on grass or possibly mud!
All my events at the Corn Exchange were pay up FRONT. That was before Covid.

 

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