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« on: November 21, 2023, 09:56:05 PM »
Make that 2 more goals from the right full back position. It's now embarrassing. We beat full time Scunny and then lose to two very ordinary semi pro teams. Time to dig deep and borrow some more wonga. :nilpoints:



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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2023, 10:35:14 PM »
Make that 2 more goals from the right full back position. It's now embarrassing. We beat full time Scunny and then lose to two very ordinary semi pro teams. Time to dig deep and borrow some more wonga. :nilpoints:

Apparently and according to the latest Podcast, he doesn't want to pay back some of what's already been borrowed!

If that's the case, who would lend anymore?

Not that I'm advocating that he should borrow more, even if he could.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2023, 07:29:45 AM »
SC wants all that debt written off.  ( thought it was £1 on admission to cover this ?) He not only wants to get out of that debt but he also wants the local Council to support the Club.    Sounds very much like now he wants the tax payer to pay for his hobby.   

Plenty of interesting stuff in SCís latest podcast
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2023, 06:14:21 PM »
SC wants all that debt written off.  ( thought it was £1 on admission to cover this ?) He not only wants to get out of that debt but he also wants the local Council to support the Club.    Sounds very much like now he wants the tax payer to pay for his hobby.   

Plenty of interesting stuff in SCís latest podcast

Been pulling Christmas Crackers already Mallard  :xmascheers:

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2023, 07:29:27 PM »
My pulling a  Cracker days are long passed now Marcus.  Have you had a listen to the latest gospel according to SC ? 
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2023, 07:48:33 PM »
My pulling a  Cracker days are long passed now Marcus.  Have you had a listen to the latest gospel according to SC ?
Why do people bother to listen the the continuing lies and bull. Doesn't want to pay his debts? Nothing new there!
Something else that does not look good on his CV.

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2023, 07:58:20 PM »
My pulling a  Cracker days are long passed now Marcus.  Have you had a listen to the latest gospel according to SC ?
Why do people bother to listen the the continuing lies and bull. Doesn't want to pay his debts? Nothing new there!
Something else that does not look good on his CV.

Technically, it's not his debt to pay back.

It's the Clubs.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2023, 08:17:10 PM »
It sounded positive that SC has a masterplan which will hopefully see the Club working to a break even model next year.  Not sure if this something new he has come up with or the idea of summer concerts will be going ahead.  If it is something new has he lost interest in the concert idea ?
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2023, 08:24:08 PM »
It sounded positive that SC has a masterplan which will hopefully see the Club working to a break even model next year.  Not sure if this something new he has come up with or the idea of summer concerts will be going ahead.  If it is something new has he lost interest in the concert idea ?

Just a guess, but could it be his version of this fan equity idea?

If so, and it's linked to the big loan the club now has being written off, I don't think I'll be holding my breath on that one.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2023, 09:00:25 PM »
It sounded positive that SC has a masterplan which will hopefully see the Club working to a break even model next year.  Not sure if this something new he has come up with or the idea of summer concerts will be going ahead.  If it is something new has he lost interest in the concert idea ?

Baldrick had a cunning plan and that led to disaster but then again he didn't have a table?

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2023, 09:32:10 PM »
It sounded positive that SC has a masterplan which will hopefully see the Club working to a break even model next year.  Not sure if this something new he has come up with or the idea of summer concerts will be going ahead.  If it is something new has he lost interest in the concert idea ?

Just a guess, but could it be his version of this fan equity idea?

If so, and it's linked to the big loan the club now has being written off, I don't think I'll be holding my breath on that one.





Canít see how writing off that loan will equate to the Club reaching a break even point next year.  I though SC was having to pump in circa £200k to balance the books.  The loan plus interest is to be paid back over what, 20 years ?

According to the new Podcast the reasons we are struggling more this season is Three fold....

1.   No Cup run this year.. ( is this really factored into finance for a year ?)

2.  Lack of players being sold on  ( again how can this be factored into any budget?)

3.  Lack of Crowds turning up to watch, ( SC struggles to understand why fans wonít pay overpriced admission to watch crap football). 
What if the Hokey Cokey really is what itís all about ?

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2023, 10:27:30 AM »
Thanks for that Mall.

In response to those 3, I personally would have thought , one common denominator.........poor Summer recruitment.

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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2023, 12:49:00 PM »
Pink, as in terms of Manager or players ? To
Me itís all down to the poor decision to appoint Hughes who in turn made poor decisions in terms of player recruitment.

After SC made his choice of Manager the buck stops firmly with him.  No point in blaming the fans for not turning up in sufficient numbers.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2023, 01:11:53 PM »
It sounded positive that SC has a masterplan which will hopefully see the Club working to a break even model next year.  Not sure if this something new he has come up with or the idea of summer concerts will be going ahead.  If it is something new has he lost interest in the concert idea ?

Just a guess, but could it be his version of this fan equity idea?

If so, and it's linked to the big loan the club now has being written off, I don't think I'll be holding my breath on that one.





Canít see how writing off that loan will equate to the Club reaching a break even point next year.  I though SC was having to pump in circa £200k to balance the books.  The loan plus interest is to be paid back over what, 20 years ?

According to the new Podcast the reasons we are struggling more this season is Three fold....

1.   No Cup run this year.. ( is this really factored into finance for a year ?)

2.  Lack of players being sold on  ( again how can this be factored into any budget?)

3.  Lack of Crowds turning up to watch, ( SC struggles to understand why fans wonít pay overpriced admission to watch crap football).

Think I would disagree with Pink's analysis of the above:
  1. Think SC needs to accept that last couple of years we have overachieved in the cup competitions.  Unfortunate that we went out of both cups at the first opportunity but really this shouldn't be a major line in the budget as the early rounds are hardly money spinners and the later rounds don't come round that often so should really be seen a bonuses
  2. SC has mentioned player sales on the past few podcasts and it is starting to become a concern (for me) in that he somehow sees this as a semi-reliable revenue stream.  I would argue putting players on mulit year contracts (so they potentially attract a fee at the end of a season) has cost us more than it has brought in and I also think there are a few of the current squad who have been brought in speculatively with the view that they will make the club money if they turn into good players that attract interest from higher up the pyramid.  I think there are a lot more building blocks to be put in place before the club can be seen as a good nursery club and also the fans need to buy into that model if it is to be adopted as it will undoubtably have an impact on the pitch.  Also can't blame MH for the lack of player sales funds as he only recruited during the summer unless he argued to keep JB if there was a bid on the table
  3.  Again, can't lay the lack of crowds solely at MH's door.  Yes, performances haven't been comparable to last season but SC has accepted the budget has been reduced and without a huge slice of financial doping we can't expect to see the same level of football which is why it I can't see how we justify the expense of a full-time squad.  SC says he is off to talk to investors (mugs) in the next few weeks but the truth is there isn't much to invest in at the Walks and the sooner SC and the fans realise what we can expect from a more sustainably run club the better.

As for this times podcast, I thought it was one of the weaker ones with SC going off on tangents about crypto etc and he didn't really seem to understand how low a level of football Real Bedford actually play at - even Buster made step 5 work!

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2023, 01:35:48 PM »



SC has mentioned player sales on the past few podcasts and it is starting to become a concern (for me) in that he somehow sees this as a semi-reliable revenue stream.  I would argue putting players on mulit year contracts (so they potentially attract a fee at the end of a season) has cost us more than it has brought in and I also think there are a few of the current squad who have been brought in speculatively with the view that they will make the club money if they turn into good players that attract interest from higher up the pyramid.  I think there are a lot more building blocks to be put in place before the club can be seen as a good nursery club and also the fans need to buy into that model if it is to be adopted as it will undoubtably have an impact on the pitch.  Also can't blame MH for the lack of player sales funds as he only recruited during the summer unless he argued to keep JB if there was a bid on the table




From memory, one of the main reasons TW was appointed was for his ability to bring players in, develop them, and sell them on for a fee.

Obviously that one didn't work out for whatever reason.



As for this times podcast, I thought it was one of the weaker ones with SC going off on tangents about crypto etc and he didn't really seem to understand how low a level of football Real Bedford actually play at - even Buster made step 5 work!


I can't see that any of the podcast do a lot towards promoting the Club. They appear to me to be more about self promotion. I really can't see what purpose they serve.
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