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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2023, 11:58:22 AM »
Such a simple formula, with cash the only answer.

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2023, 02:01:36 PM »
The Dillathon computer calculated 5 years ago that the words of managers are in the main worthless.  They all say the same things and use the same cliches.  Itís about having quick and elusive players in every position.  This manager, like all others, needs players who are better than opponents, but doesnít have the cash to attract them.  Until he does, we canít and wonít progress.  Such a simple formula, with cash the only answer.

Supporter cliches - "we need more cash to strengthen the team".  Whilst that may be true, you also have to consider whether the home defeats to Buxton, Banbury, Southport and Spennymoor saw us beaten by sides with higher budgets than ours, likewise Scunthorpe are widely thought to be the biggest spenders in NLN this season yet we beat them, although that does seem to have been more of a blip than a turning of the corner. 

Without any real knowledge, I would suggest that even with budget cuts from last season we are still around the average but neither manager has yet been able to get us to the dizzy heights of average on the pitch so it's not all down to £s

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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2023, 02:03:07 PM »
 :sinking:We need a player shake up after last nights display. The first half was hoof it football which led to the ball being returned very quickly, there was little or no retaining of possession and no man to man passing. The second half improved when Bart was on at one stage we actually managed  to string 7 passes together the best of the night. We are weak at the back asthe two full backs are not up to required needs, we donít have a midfield that can hold or win the ball and there are two forwards who run about a lot but are not goal scorers. Hughes did us no favours afraid and his legacy is leading us to relegation. At least Clunan put hisself about and never dropped his head and we seem to lack his leadership. :banghead;

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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2023, 02:32:15 PM »
What a poor result, I'm afraid the buck stops with AL as his team selection was far from satisfactory.
We had our top goal scorer Cybulski (6) who is also our only natural no.9 sitting on the bench, on his introduction the team performance improved.
Barrett starting whilst coming back from injury doesn't make sense as he needs to be used as an impact player off the bench until full fitness is reached.
Smith I'm afraid is just not good enough for this standard.
Ponticelli & Stephens have scored 7 goals in 27 league starts and 6 sub appearances, whilst their positioning to make chances is very good their conversion of chances into goals is dire.
Back 3 of Crowther, Coulson & Mcfadden have not kept a clean sheet all season, surely AL must see something has to change.
Apart from 2 young loanees from Fleetwood there have been no incoming players, with all AL contacts you would think there would have been some experienced players incoming or is it that there is no finance to fund such players.
Without a team shake up or a couple of experienced incoming players appearing quickly we will be cut adrift in the bottom four over the next few games.
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Whilst I agree with your initial sentence, I think it is perhaps worse that your analysis.

The squad that was put together pre-season was designed to play 5-2-3 but it was pretty clear early on that the there were too many incapable of making that work and MH was too late in changing things round, although injuries didn't help his options.  AL came in and continued with 5-2-3 and, with the return of Hargreaves and Crowther we did look slightly more resilient although still too many 'filling in' for us to ever look like it really worked. 

AL has now tried a few times with a back 4 that includes Coulson (who can't be relied up due to lack of pace) and McFadden (who is just totally ineffective as a left back as he has no thought of going forward but is too wide to properly cover Josh) in an attempt to play his preferred 4-4-2, although last night it was more like 4-2-4 give how little Smith and Barrett helped out Hargreaves and Rogers and AL had to revert to the 5-2-3 after half time but which just repeats the biggest problems we have had all season-
   * neither Ronan or Clifford are really up to standard
   * a two man midfield gets easily overrun by any sort of team that can pass the ball quickly and accurately - see Banbury and many, many others this season, it's not the players themselves we are just asking too much of them
   * a two man midfield is unlikely to commit to forward runs based on point above which then means we look incredible static with forwards pushed up against opposing back lines and no-one moving and creating space.  Rogers looks like he has a good left foot but with so little movement last night its just a waste
   * given all of the above we don't create many chances and no-one apart perhaps Cybulski has a great conversion ratio means not enough goals

Personally I think we need some big changes the weekend and AL has to earn his money by finding another plan to get more out of this squad (which I assume still includes Walker unless he is now injured and we haven't been told), it's all well and good repeating how disappointed he is with the fight etc but he has to start showing that in his selections.

Finally Norm, your comment re Barrett did make me smile - "an impact player off the bench until full fitness is reached", given that the last time he looked fit and interested was Stevenage last year, I wouldn't hold your breath.

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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2023, 05:09:53 PM »
Is SC really being serious ?   The fans are to blame by not turning up in numbers to pay for his Hobby.


The guy is never to blame and nothing is his fault.   He seems to not want to take responsibility for poor Management selection, leaving the club full time at this level, overnight stays etc.  The list is endless for what he has promised but failed to deliver on. 

If the Club falls over the edge of a Cliff ( Is it a case of when not if ?), then the fault will sit firmly in one persons lap.    Just look at the Clubs balance sheet, that would be a good starting point. 
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2023, 05:29:18 PM »
Is SC really being serious ?   The fans are to blame by not turning up in numbers to pay for his Hobby.


The guy is never to blame and nothing is his fault.   He seems to not want to take responsibility for poor Management selection, leaving the. Luv full time at this level, overnight stays etc.  The list is endless for what he has promised but failed to deliver on. 

If the Club falls over the edge of a Cliff ( Is it a case of when not if ?), then the fault will sit firmly in one persons lap.    Just look at the Clubs balance sheet, that would be a good starting point.

At the risk of labouring the point, his latest post in my opinion confirms that we are not supporters - we are customers. But somewhat ironically,  he also alludes to the fact that we have a choice!

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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2023, 05:43:37 PM »
If it should transpire that there is no club to support, it will be down to the owner, not the supporters.

His business model was to throw money at it. What did he expect to happen when he stopped pumping it in?

Doesn't take a genius to work that one out.
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2023, 05:52:30 PM »
Is SC really being serious ?   The fans are to blame by not turning up in numbers to pay for his Hobby.


The guy is never to blame and nothing is his fault.   He seems to not want to take responsibility for poor Management selection, leaving the club full time at this level, overnight stays etc.  The list is endless for what he has promised but failed to deliver on. 

If the Club falls over the edge of a Cliff ( Is it a case of when not if ?), then the fault will sit firmly in one persons lap.    Just look at the Clubs balance sheet, that would be a good starting point.

At the risk of labouring the point, his latest post in my opinion confirms that we are not supporters - we are customers. But somewhat ironically,  he also alludes to the fact that we have a choice!

Am I alone in thinking the Chairman is preparing the Ground ?   He should maybe be  looking at the reasons he has failed ( re-accruing that word) to obtain sufficient financial support from third parties.  Apart from the one where  he is now due to start paying back.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2023, 06:10:04 PM »
Is SC really being serious ?   The fans are to blame by not turning up in numbers to pay for his Hobby.


The guy is never to blame and nothing is his fault.   He seems to not want to take responsibility for poor Management selection, leaving the club full time at this level, overnight stays etc.  The list is endless for what he has promised but failed to deliver on. 

If the Club falls over the edge of a Cliff ( Is it a case of when not if ?), then the fault will sit firmly in one persons lap.    Just look at the Clubs balance sheet, that would be a good starting point.

At the risk of labouring the point, his latest post in my opinion confirms that we are not supporters - we are customers. But somewhat ironically,  he also alludes to the fact that we have a choice!

Am I alone in thinking the Chairman is preparing the Ground ?   He should maybe be  looking at the reasons he has failed ( re-accruing that word) to obtain sufficient financial support from third parties.  Apart from the one where  he is now due to start paying back.

No, you're not alone. I personally know a few people who are asking that question. I wouldn't be surprised if many more are also doing the same.
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2023, 06:47:59 PM »
I agree, I think we are coming to that point.

I would also just like to back track.

When Hughes was at the helm some suggested he was out of his depth and others are blaming the weak squad on him. What if he was very limited by finance on what he could bring in ? I can also imagine players weren't exactly queuing up to come to Norfolk, following the exodus that happened pre season.

Fast forward to now...is Adam Lakeland getting much more out of the squad......or finding it easy to bring players in ?

The way I see it is we lost 2 fine wing backs for this league and a player who was big for us in defence and attack in Gold...and we couldn't afford to replace any of them.


The squad has too many flashy forward players who look good on the ball but offer no end product.......all those that were on Gold's back and wanted a Ponticelli, Stephens pairing up front instead, are probably realising why Widdrington showed such faith in him.

Two of the central 3 have always lacked pace in Lynn colours.....in the past this has been plastered over by two capable wing backs and a blocker in front of them in the form of Theo...I thought Hughes acquired Oke for that role but so far Adam has used him very sparingly.


I am not sure, how much more Adam can squeeze out of the current squad...maybe just enough to survive relegation. However, with crowds dropping I do wonder if the club will make it till the end of the season.

Whatever must the shortfall be with crowds of 600?

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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2023, 07:15:12 PM »
I agree, I think we are coming to that point.

I would also just like to back track.

When Hughes was at the helm some suggested he was out of his depth and others are blaming the weak squad on him. What if he was very limited by finance on what he could bring in ? I can also imagine players weren't exactly queuing up to come to Norfolk, following the exodus that happened pre season.

Fast forward to now...is Adam Lakeland getting much more out of the squad......or finding it easy to bring players in ?

The way I see it is we lost 2 fine wing backs for this league and a player who was big for us in defence and attack in Gold...and we couldn't afford to replace any of them.


The squad has too many flashy forward players who look good on the ball but offer no end product.......all those that were on Gold's back and wanted a Ponticelli, Stephens pairing up front instead, are probably realising why Widdrington showed such faith in him.

Two of the central 3 have always lacked pace in Lynn colours.....in the past this has been plastered over by two capable wing backs and a blocker in front of them in the form of Theo...I thought Hughes acquired Oke for that role but so far Adam has used him very sparingly.


I am not sure, how much more Adam can squeeze out of the current squad...maybe just enough to survive relegation. However, with crowds dropping I do wonder if the club will make it till the end of the season.

Whatever must the shortfall be with crowds of 600?

I imagine the EDP article on Saturday will be interesting, and probably cover the finances.
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2023, 07:15:49 PM »
Just watched ALís post match interview.  Found it strange that having had two weeks without a game the players should turn in a performance like that.  Lack lustre.  No fire to win first or 2nd balls. I think the Manager has to wonder if the players are putting it in for him.

Also a worry seems the Managers comments that he is finding it very difficult to recruit players.   Something that was never an issue for Culverhouse or Widderington ( money ?).   
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2023, 09:17:12 PM »
 :glum: KLTFC is a sinking ship with the current state of affairs. For 5 years us fans have had the luxury of watching a good team of footballers. The hoped for rise in attendance to help finance a strong team has not happened. I think Covid has a lot to blame for this as well as the number of available football matches screened on the TV. SC obviously does not have a bottomless pit of money to finance his dream and I would think reality has  caused disappointment and hence the reduced budget this season. Perhaps the plan is  cling on and hope we stay up, or be realistic and try and get ready for next season in a lower division. I just feel sorry for the new management team and wonder what story and package they were offered.

 

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