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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2024, 02:50:26 PM »
So Maradona and Messi both won it by themselves Dilly ?   Both World class no question.  However they had other players keeping the opposition out at the other end.

With Europe leading the way on a World level maybe we would be better looking at Countries like Portugal where the infrastructure drops off a Cliff outside the top two leagues.  They have produced the odd player who could play a bit Dill
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2024, 03:01:42 PM »
I am a bit confused on the matter of signing a player and then sending out on loan ?

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2024, 04:53:13 PM »
I am a bit confused on the matter of signing a player and then sending out on loan ?

It's speculation in the hope that the player will get better and either a) be good enough for us or b) be able to be sold on. 

Fleetwood did exactly the same thing with Devonport, signed him from Accrington Stanley (who are they?) then loaning him straight to us https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2024/january/devonport-signing-for-development-squad/

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2024, 05:37:56 PM »
I am a bit confused on the matter of signing a player and then sending out on loan ?

It's speculation in the hope that the player will get better and either a) be good enough for us or b) be able to be sold on. 

Fleetwood did exactly the same thing with Devonport, signed him from Accrington Stanley (who are they?) then loaning him straight to us https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2024/january/devonport-signing-for-development-squad/

With the Academy and the  Under 23's having "a clear pathway to the first team", I must say that it seems a strange one.

Why would we sign a 22 year old player who presumably is not currently good enough for our 1st team, when we must have very similar prospects already coming through the ranks?   :dontknow:
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2024, 05:43:54 PM »
Good point B&G.  Why can’t he get game time with our U23’s. under Alex Cross ?   It’s great looking to the future ( isn’t that the remit of the Academy?), but surely the future very much depends on the present and staying at Step 2
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2024, 05:45:03 PM »
Would there not also be potential issues re work permits?

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2024, 09:17:33 AM »

What has happened to " THE INVESTMENT"

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2024, 10:48:25 AM »

What has happened to " THE INVESTMENT"

Still unclear what TSI were actually going to be 'investing' in as you would imagine an investment fund would want a return on any money invested so possibly not just a case of pouring money down the same hole that SC has dug over his tenure.  Maybe the lad signed and sent to Kettering is an example where they are hoping to find a diamond in the rough and make a few quid when one comes off - like many speculator model schemes you will hear about the rare 'big win' whilst hearing nothing more about all those that didn't come off.

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2024, 08:34:40 PM »
So Maradona and Messi both won it by themselves Dilly ?   Both World class no question.  However they had other players keeping the opposition out at the other end.

With Europe leading the way on a World level maybe we would be better looking at Countries like Portugal where the infrastructure drops off a Cliff outside the top two leagues.  They have produced the odd player who could play a bit Dill
So Dilly Dilly is still living a dream beyond KLTFC, JB proved himself at Aldershot as most of us thought he would. KLTFC don’t have Messi or Maradona on their books so just get real, the manager has to pick the best he can according the opposition and the players he has.

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2024, 11:25:40 PM »
So Maradona and Messi both won it by themselves Dilly ?   Both World class no question.  However they had other players keeping the opposition out at the other end.

With Europe leading the way on a World level maybe we would be better looking at Countries like Portugal where the infrastructure drops off a Cliff outside the top two leagues.  They have produced the odd player who could play a bit Dill
So Dilly Dilly is still living a dream beyond KLTFC, JB proved himself at Aldershot as most of us thought he would. KLTFC don’t have Messi or Maradona on their books so just get real, the manager has to pick the best he can according the opposition and the players he has.

Don't think JB has set any fires at Aldershot? :dontknow:
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2024, 01:09:35 PM »
Linnet 465- It’s the type of player I mean, of course, not the actualise!   It I take your point, and agree the manager can only pick his best players.  He didn’t, however, and Barrett is the prime example.  Mall is right that a team have to stop the others scoring, but these days that is done with numbers, not mere defenders.  Most teams get 10 men, or at least 9, behind the ball.  If you want to see how “good” football works, Leverkusen in Germany look to Dilly like the best team since Barcelonas GOAT teams for about 10 years. Sure beats”winning fouls”, or “doing little fouls all over the pitch”  as a way of playing most likely to win…

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2024, 01:19:52 PM »
Linnet 465- It’s the type of player I mean, of course, not the actualise!   It I take your point, and agree the manager can only pick his best players.  He didn’t, however, and Barrett is the prime example.  Mall is right that a team have to stop the others scoring, but these days that is done with numbers, not mere defenders.  Most teams get 10 men, or at least 9, behind the ball.  If you want to see how “good” football works, Leverkusen in Germany look to Dilly like the best team since Barcelonas GOAT teams for about 10 years. Sure beats”winning fouls”, or “doing little fouls all over the pitch”  as a way of playing most likely to win…

Even the greatest creative teams need a balance. Carlos Puyol at Barcelona being an example. Technically gifted but also quite pysical as and when required.

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2024, 04:42:53 PM »
Take Roy Keane at Utd.  His ‘style’ and ‘encouragement’ allowed other more technically gifted players the opportunity to go and play... Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney etc
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:22 PM »
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