Home defeat

[rod]

in reality we need to win these home games, top teams win at home at a canter and pick up points on the road at regular intervals. We seem capable of picking up those points on our travels so far, the return for away games, I would say has been acceptable, even though we really have not faced up against any top teams except one possibly. If indeed we are serious about trying for promotion via play offs or indeed winning this league home wins are vital for more than one reason, obviously points needed top maintain a challenge, we all know Lynn fans are fickle and 11=1300 is a really good turnout for a home match, I know people will argue we can pull in more fans and yes we can occasionally but a genuine core is the stated figure in my opinion. We need this number week in week out and two home defeats and some fans will start looking at costs and value for money and start looking whether we can really get in to a promotion challenging position. AL has had good backing from the football club since he has been here and he now has HIS squad of players, not ones he inherited and we really need to be seeing home wins to keep the fickle fans entering through those turnstiles and two defeats on the trot at home does not help. Full time professional team, we need to address these concerns and start picking up those home wins as soon as possible. Early doors as yet I know but points on the board are always welcome.

 "We all know Lynn fans are fickle?" Really? Are we / they more fickle than the majority of football fans? If so why? Maybe the grossly inflated pay on the day admission price is a factor - particularly the concession price. If that is the case i am now one of the ' fickle', as i refuse to support this  vanity project that treats supporters (customers) as a necessary evil. More a case of can pay but won't pay!

From the EDP article:

"...............all this effort culminates in a 90-minute game................"

Exactly why Supporters should not be treated like customers! The precious 90 minutes, whereas its obviously the most important of the week, is generally the only time the Club engages with the supporters.

Although the Media coverage is far better than it ever has been under the current regime, its only one small part of it. It can't just stop there.

Supporter involvement has been poor since Club was reformed. Even the previous Club, with all the errors they made, appear to have had more idea than the past and present Chairman on this matter.

The best its ever been was when there was a Management Committee for the supporters which was allowed to get involved with the Club. Totally independent officials and not have them appointed by the Club (or by other Officials that had been appointed by the Club). The work and effort that the likes of Chilly and all the others used to put in was incredible, and the Club benefited both financially and socially. The funds raised meant they were in a position to fully pay a players wages if they had wanted to (maybe more than one)!!! That's a lot of money and would be a great help to any Club! All this has now gone.....................why? An income stream lost and not replaced. I can't understand the logic in that one.

The important thing to remember is that the 90 minutes mentioned, is how the majority of supporters see the Club. That's really all the engagement they get.Call them Fickle or 90 minutes Supporters or both. How a Club can move forward with this model, I don't really know. Surely its obvious that supporters need to be involved more than just 90 minutes a week?

As an example, People continually mention Darlington. Should we believe that all their supporters do, (apart from raising 100's of thousands of pounds) is watch 90 minutes of football each week?

I think not.

 

Game, set and match!!!

[Blue_and_Gold]

Sport Football News (from about 3 weeks ago).

English ticket prices in Germany would lead to 'a s***storm,' claims Bundesliga CEO Seifert.

Borussia Dortmund season tickets cost just £160 compared to £900 at Arsenal



While English football fans prepare for a protest march over rising ticket prices on Thursday morning, and the Premier League chief Richard Scudamore defends his success in the “bums on seats” business - 80,000 German fans attended the German Super Cup in Dortmund on Wednesday night, most paying around £12 for their ticket - the Bundesliga CEO claims English-priced tickets in Germany would be met with “a s***storm” and “would not be accepted.”

“Bayern Munich makes €30 to €40m less a year in ticket prices than Manchester United,” said Christian Seifert, the Bundesliga chief executive. “Over ten years that is €300m. The league has no power to interfere with this, the clubs decide on their own. But some kind of common sense prevails. But it’s very hard for the clubs. Every year in the magazines you see double pages about how much are the prices of tickets, and bratwurst, and beer and everyone gets in a s***storm if the price of bratwurst goes up by 10 per cent.

“[In the future] you cannot tell, but from today’s perspective, the clubs would not change the strategy. It would not be accepted.”

A season ticket in Borussia Dortmund’s famous “Yellow Wall” stand behind the goal is around £160, while the cheapest at Arsenal is close to £900.


 Around 1,000 of Dortmund’s season ticket holders are British nationals who fly in for the matches.


“For the Yellow Wall, they could easily charge double the price,” Mr Seifert said. “But they choose to have a price that lower social classes can afford.

“They also could sell 90 per cent of their tickets as season tickets but they choose not to. They like to give as many people as possible the chance to go to matches. We see the Bundesliga as an important part of society.

“We have a holistic approach, based on the financial, the game and society. If we don’t have success in all three dimensions, we don’t consider it a success, at all.”

When West Ham host Tottenham Hotspur on Saturday, the cheapest ticket is £55, and the most expensive, non-hospitality seat is £77.

When Bayern Munich played Arsenal in last season’s Champions League, the German club subsidised the cost of their travelling fans’ tickets to the Emirates, which were almost £80.


Bayern Munich’s former chairman Uli Hoenness claimed the difference between German and English football was that “the fans are not seen as cows to be milked.”

Mr Scudamore has claimed that Premier League attendance is at 96 per cent, but this does not necessarily reflect the number of people passing through the turnstiles, merely the tickets sold.

With an average attendance of 43,500, the German Bundesliga is the second most attended sporting league of any kind in the world, behind only American Football’s NFL. The Premier League average is 35,500.

It is the second time in a year in a row that English fans have protested over ticket prices. Since last year the television revenues clubs receive from Sky and BT Sport has almost doubled, but it has not led to a decrease in prices, which Match of the Day host Gary Lineker called “just greed.”

Bundesliga clubs spend an average of 39 per cent of their revenues on players’ wages, around half what is spent by the Premier League.

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in reality we need to win these home games, top teams win at home at a canter and pick up points on the road at regular intervals. We seem capable of picking up those points on our travels so far, the return for away games, I would say has been acceptable, even though we really have not faced up against any top teams except one possibly. If indeed we are serious about trying for promotion via play offs or indeed winning this league home wins are vital for more than one reason, obviously points needed top maintain a challenge, we all know Lynn fans are fickle and 11=1300 is a really good turnout for a home match, I know people will argue we can pull in more fans and yes we can occasionally but a genuine core is the stated figure in my opinion. We need this number week in week out and two home defeats and some fans will start looking at costs and value for money and start looking whether we can really get in to a promotion challenging position. AL has had good backing from the football club since he has been here and he now has HIS squad of players, not ones he inherited and we really need to be seeing home wins to keep the fickle fans entering through those turnstiles and two defeats on the trot at home does not help. Full time professional team, we need to address these concerns and start picking up those home wins as soon as possible. Early doors as yet I know but points on the board are always welcome.

 "We all know Lynn fans are fickle?" Really? Are we / they more fickle than the majority of football fans? If so why? Maybe the grossly inflated pay on the day admission price is a factor - particularly the concession price. If that is the case i am now one of the ' fickle', as i refuse to support this  vanity project that treats supporters (customers) as a necessary evil. More a case of can pay but won't pay!

From the EDP article:

"...............all this effort culminates in a 90-minute game................"

Exactly why Supporters should not be treated like customers! The precious 90 minutes, whereas its obviously the most important of the week, is generally the only time the Club engages with the supporters.

Although the Media coverage is far better than it ever has been under the current regime, its only one small part of it. It can't just stop there.

Supporter involvement has been poor since Club was reformed. Even the previous Club, with all the errors they made, appear to have had more idea than the past and present Chairman on this matter.

The best its ever been was when there was a Management Committee for the supporters which was allowed to get involved with the Club. Totally independent officials and not have them appointed by the Club (or by other Officials that had been appointed by the Club). The work and effort that the likes of Chilly and all the others used to put in was incredible, and the Club benefited both financially and socially. The funds raised meant they were in a position to fully pay a players wages if they had wanted to (maybe more than one)!!! That's a lot of money and would be a great help to any Club! All this has now gone.....................why? An income stream lost and not replaced. I can't understand the logic in that one.

The important thing to remember is that the 90 minutes mentioned, is how the majority supporters see the Club. That's really all the engagement they get. Call them Fickle or 90 minutes Supporters or both. How a Club can move forward with this model, I don't really know. Surely its obvious that supporters need to be involved more than just 90 minutes a week?

As an example, People continually mention Darlington. Should we believe that all their supporters do, (apart from raising 100's of thousands of pounds) is watch 90 minutes of football each week?

I think not.

 

Game, set and match!!!

Just one element of the great British rip off. Such a shame that our esteemed owner is not running a German non league club!