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Mallard

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Interesting where we could be.
« on: August 30, 2016, 01:50:33 PM »
The current league table tells a story.  In the final play off place sit Frome, where Lynn took 3 points from on Saturday.  They sit that position with 13 points having dropped 8 points already.  Oh for a full squad.  Two Points dropped at Home to Merthyr  2 more in the home game v Cambridge then with a players to bring in yesterday and leading 1-0 could be another 3 down the drain...lets not be greedy and say we would have taken a point.   That's 5 points.  Guess who would be sitting in the final Play-off place ?

We didn't have a good summer, player wise.  Maybe too much budget thrown at 2 few bodies ( John sands looks a massive one) and it looks the same old story as the last few season in getting people in.

Is it time that someone else got involved in bringing players in ? Sure Setch has to identify what he needs, but Setch's record on 7 days notice baring fruit is a little disappointing to say the least.  Seems time to recall  Bonney who wasn't half bad at that.


robbo84

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 01:58:09 PM »
Still close. If we'd won yesterday we'd have been up to 8th, lose and we're now 18th.

For everything that's happened so far, we're a point ahead of last season's first 7 games.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2016, 02:03:07 PM »
Yesterday for me confirmed that this league is wide open....I think in his post match interview that Setch' described Kettering as the Southern League power house and that may be so in terms of budget but IMO, yesterday they were there for the taking even with our depleted squad..We set the game up with Dylan's goal and their defence looked very vulnerable every time that we attacked.

They had come off an awful run, culminating in that 0-3 defeat on the Saturday and a second goal would have killed them off in all probablility but we took our foot off the accelerator which enabled them into the game and you could see their confidence building to the point where there was only going to be one winner...All a case of what might have been!

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 02:42:07 PM »
I think Setch is getting an unfair deal from the supporters. He started the season with 15 players plus the likes of Jack Frohawk and Alex Clunan. He had little choice in getting rid of/ letting go John Sands who as all who saw him this season he wasn't fit and was not doing it for the team. Most supporters were very happy with Sands/Mettam up front, he also brought Quigs back and he has not let us down, even though he has rarely played in his desired position. McWilliams is hopefully here for the season and has already proved a fans favourite.
On Saturday Setch had three injured, not playing, and three playing with injuries,Gary Mills, leaving eight fit players. For sixty minutes we were much the better side but had to substitute Gary Mills who played very well, and his replacement Eoin McQuaid had a decent 35 minutes. The three injured players were feeling the pace, but still gave their all, and Kettering brought on some very useful, fresh, experienced players and managed to win 2-1. We could have been 3 or more up before they scored. Somehow everyone has leapt on Setch's back and believe he is to blame for everything, no shirt budget, six injured players, Sands being a waste of space, everyone wanted him signed. It is ridiculous. Trying to get any player in he has to put in seven days, then speak to the lad and try and persuade him to sign for Lynn, probably takes fourteen days before he plays. They turn us down for any number of reasons and he has to start again, if he had a bit more sponsorship money he might be better able to persuade them, who knows.
According to most who saw the previous three games we were fantastic, under the circumstances, and yesterday could easily have won the game we didn't, and Setch is rubbish again, pathetic.
As for Bonnie, slip of the pen there Mallard, that was at level five and level three is a completely different ball game.

Mallard

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 03:19:51 PM »
Of course he is getting a raw deal Tazzy.  He had 3 injured players out there and he had to leave them on.  He said himself there was players out there who should not have even started but they stood up to be counted.  The players who sat on the  bench were not fully utilised.  One sub on 58 mins another on 85mins. That was  it. The other 2 weren't used. 

Setch puts the squad together, he decides on what money is going to whom.  He is in charge of bringing players in.   Great win Saturday, followed by a home loss on Saturday.  If The owner is not backing the manager with the funds to run a proper squad at this level then maybe he is either not the man for the job or he needs to bring other people in who  can support  the manager with a budget that is workable.

I don't think the make up of the squad can be blamed on Cleeve, no more than it could on Buster for the previous few years.  Setch is given a figure to work to, If it is not enough then surely he should stand up to Cleeve and say that the budget he has been given isn't workable.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 03:44:33 PM »
I am inclined to agree with Mallard: that the buck stops with Setchell as the key decision maker. Was his decision to buy Mettam based on player form or player reputation? If Mettam said he would only play for Lynn if Kern Miller was no longer at the club then Setchell has also made a dreadful decision. We look better up front without Mettam. Setchell's decision to bring Mettam to Lynn may prove to be a critical mistake.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 03:48:41 PM »
I don't think the make up of the squad can be blamed on Cleeve, no more than it could on Buster for the previous few years.  Setch is given a figure to work to, If it is not enough then surely he should stand up to Cleeve and say that the budget he has been given isn't workable.

Adds even more importance to getting safely through the first couple of rounds of the FA Cup this season.

tazzywazz

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 03:56:30 PM »
The two others Mallard play either left back or midfield, and again you are assuming, with no knowledge of the reserves, that they are capable of replacing Hilliard, Stevenson or Gaughran. Your other statements are ridiculous the manager put the squad together and one player, who the fans were desperate for, lets the club down and with two difficult matches in 48 hours against strong sides Setch had to go with six injured players. I don't car who the manager is he would find it very difficult to deal with that before the end of August. Then you say he must demand more from the owner than is currently in the kitty, a fast way to a bankrupt club, again. I doubt Mr Cleeve is the easiest man to deal with.
Well Robbo that is bloody obvious.

robbo84

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 03:58:57 PM »
This heat's clearly getting to someone this afternoon!

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 04:09:35 PM »
I am inclined to agree with Mallard: that the buck stops with Setchell as the key decision maker. Was his decision to buy Mettam based on player form or player reputation? If Mettam said he would only play for Lynn if Kern Miller was no longer at the club then Setchell has also made a dreadful decision. We look better up front without Mettam. Setchell's decision to bring Mettam to Lynn may prove to be a critical mistake.
If that is the reason Kern left and not simply hearsay then it's definitely a mistake. Agree with Tazzy in the fact that simply asking for funds for new players is a slippery slope indeed.

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 04:15:06 PM »
A bit hasty Robbo. You are one of the few people on this forum who go to games home and away and give your honest and fair assessment of the games. Most people seem to come on here to have a go at Setch and the team. The team yesterday gave it all they had against one of the strongest clubs at this level, they deserve applause for that especially on the back of a great performance at Frome two days earlier. But what do we get every negative people can dream up, the players deserve better than that. I followed the feed on the Frome game and very much enjoyed those who were having a go at everything to do with the club after we went  1-0 down only to be made to look ridiculous when we won 3-1.
Kern left before Mettam was signed but following Stamford he doesn't seem to be doing very well at level four.

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2016, 04:18:12 PM »
Very defensive as always Tazzy.   I thought you were a big supporter of Cleeve, as you were Buster.  Enough said on that point.  :laughcry:

If Setch had players who were struggling surely he would have loaded the bench up with  players who could step into their shoes, if and when needed.  Unless you are saying there is nothing in the Reserves in those position to step in.   Spittlehouse ( for a one game cameo) in case Sam G cant do 90 mins for example.  Desperate times call for desperate measures.  All about putting a risk assessment in place and covering as many base's as one can.

Tell me Tazzy, on what you have seen so far is Mettam a better bet up top than say Dylan Edge ?  Im sure pound for Pound Edge would have the edge, so to speak.

Over to you Tazzy for the next load of PR tosh.

Paul47

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2016, 04:33:41 PM »
From being relatively quiet on here Saturday/Sunday following an excellent win at Frome, the forum has now gone back into overdrive since the defeat yesterday. So predictable.

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2016, 04:40:31 PM »
Most people are backing the team, we know we have had 3 difficult games, 2 in 3 days, with injuries and so on.
6 points from that is very good.   :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2016, 04:43:44 PM »
I have been sceptical about the impact of Mettam since pre-season Paul. What do think about Lynn signing him.