Race for the play offs.

[happymondays]

Let's be honest here the whole Cleeve,Jo,Bal situation is making a mockery of the fans and the club.The ridiculous secrecy of it all is only adding to the farce.
We are now entering the business end of the season with 3 massive home games against teams with huge fan bases.
Start letting the fans in on what's going on.

[Mallard]

When the Clubs gets the begging bowl out we are fans.  With regard to  anything to do with the internal workings of the Club we are customers. 

[Pink]

When the Clubs gets the begging bowl out we are fans.  With regard to  anything to do with the internal workings of the Club we are customers. 

This line keeps getting repeated over and over.

I wonder will Lynn fans ever do something progressive about the situation........or will they just sit there, in the dark,having their noses rubbed in it and just moan every so often.

Surely if you want to know what's going on inside your club, get together, issue a statement and refuse to attend matches until you get some answers......it is your club after all.

[TonyM]

When the Clubs gets the begging bowl out we are fans.  With regard to  anything to do with the internal workings of the Club we are customers. 

This line keeps getting repeated over and over.

I wonder will Lynn fans ever do something progressive about the situation........or will they just sit there, in the dark,having their noses rubbed in it and just moan every so often.

Surely if you want to know what's going on inside your club, get together, issue a statement and refuse to attend matches until you get some answers......it is your club after all.

I don't think anyone would have me down as an SC apologist but really don't think talk of refusing to attend matches does much to advance the conversation.  I know there are supporters who no longer attend regularly for various reasons, including how the club is organised, but that is their individual choice and a world away from an organised boycott.  Personally I think it would be better to positively campaign for something like what is being proposed at Scunthorpe - https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2025/march/become-one-of-the-voices-of-the-fans-at-scunthorpe-united/ and something similar was muted at the Walks when Barrie Peirpont was briefly involved at the club.  Maybe SC could discuss this with his Scunthorpe counterparts when they come down over Easter?

As for the SC / Jo ownership issue, all we really know is that the club was still 100% owned by Mr & Mrs Cleeve on the 14th March as this is the day the NL check club websites to ensure ownership details are up to date (they must inform the league within three days of a change but only need to have the website up to date once a year!).  Easy to speculate that maybe Jo is going cold on the deal and/or SC is still holding out for the possibility of another interested buyer should the club get into the playoffs and somehow achieve promotion but where the negotiations (if there are any) really stand is only known by the parties themselves and personally I am comfortable with that - there is no reason for a running commentary although if (say) everything is on hold until the end of the season I see no reason why that couldn't be communicated.

[Blue_and_Gold]

When the Clubs gets the begging bowl out we are fans.  With regard to  anything to do with the internal workings of the Club we are customers. 

This line keeps getting repeated over and over.

I wonder will Lynn fans ever do something progressive about the situation........or will they just sit there, in the dark,having their noses rubbed in it and just moan every so often.

Surely if you want to know what's going on inside your club, get together, issue a statement and refuse to attend matches until you get some answers......it is your club after all.

I don't think anyone would have me down as an SC apologist but really don't think talk of refusing to attend matches does much to advance the conversation.  I know there are supporters who no longer attend regularly for various reasons, including how the club is organised, but that is their individual choice and a world away from an organised boycott.  Personally I think it would be better to positively campaign for something like what is being proposed at Scunthorpe - https://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/2025/march/become-one-of-the-voices-of-the-fans-at-scunthorpe-united/ and something similar was muted at the Walks when Barrie Peirpont was briefly involved at the club.  Maybe SC could discuss this with his Scunthorpe counterparts when they come down over Easter?

As for the SC / Jo ownership issue, all we really know is that the club was still 100% owned by Mr & Mrs Cleeve on the 14th March as this is the day the NL check club websites to ensure ownership details are up to date (they must inform the league within three days of a change but only need to have the website up to date once a year!).  Easy to speculate that maybe Jo is going cold on the deal and/or SC is still holding out for the possibility of another interested buyer should the club get into the playoffs and somehow achieve promotion but where the negotiations (if there are any) really stand is only known by the parties themselves and personally I am comfortable with that - there is no reason for a running commentary although if (say) everything is on hold until the end of the season I see no reason why that couldn't be communicated.

I agree with Tony. Any group led/group inspired boycott of games isn't the way forward. It would serve no beneficial purpose to anyone.

Short term it would cause the Club problems with finances.

Long term it would be in danger of dividing supporters.

Despite a very few still trying to do this (failing), you can feel that supporters are closer together than they have been for a long time. This is almost certainly due to concern for the future of the Club, not helped by the silence over Jo and Bal and investment which is quite clearly needed to survive at this level.

However, the fact that a Supporter has even thought of the idea, surely must alert the Chairman to potential problems which only he can rectify.

[Mallard]

While fans may not be involved in an organised no show protest surely the same thing is almost happening by default ?   I know from a personal level I have nowhere near the same commitment to attend games as I once had.   I would suggest I’m not alone in this.    I’d love to feel like I want to attend every home game but sadly the Cleeve rein has sucked that desire from me.   It has the feel of its his Club and it’s his way or no way.

IF the Club is taken over by owners who are proactive toward the fan base then the reset  button may well be pressed for a lot of fans who no longer attend.

[TonyM]

...you can feel that supporters are closer together than they have been for a long time. This is almost certainly due to concern for the future of the Club, not helped by the silence over Jo and Bal and investment which is quite clearly needed to survive at this level.

As I have only been once this season, I will take your word for this and if it is the case then that can only be a good thing, whatever the underlying reason, and might potentially be something a new owner (if that is what eventually transpires) could tap into rather than the 'divide and conquer' attitude seen by the two owners since the club reformed.

[Pink]

Thanks for your valued replies Tony and B&G.

Both of you know a little bit more about the current internal machinations of the club than I.

You seem to be suggesting that SC may have soften his stance towards " Community " aspects and maybe The Trust. If that is the case I am very pleasantly surprised. If it is not the case, then to my mind your suggestions amount to laissez faire and little will change till next season and possibly beyond. Playing a waiting game for the owner to run out of options or find someone else to run things with a similar modus operandi could be a long  game...indeed it already is.

You both seem to denounce the idea of group action..but isn't that what a Community run club is all about.

The action doesn't need to be an immediate boycott of games, but perhaps a statement with signatures requesting information/meeting in return for continued support. I wouldn't have thought that unreasonable. Surely supporters have the right to know what it is they are actually supporting

[Blue_and_Gold]

You both seem to denounce the idea of group action..but isn't that what a Community run club is all about.

Sorry Pink but you've lost me there, as this is not a Community run Club.

Both of you know a little bit more about the current internal machinations of the club than I.

    I don't know where that idea came from, but with regards to me knowing what's currently going on at the Club, I really doubt that I know anymore than you. 

[Blue_and_Gold]

You seem to be suggesting that SC may have soften his stance towards " Community " aspects and maybe The Trust.

I don't think that was suggested by either Tony or me. I'm certainly not aware of either of those things happening.

[MARCUS ROSE]

It's a bit late to worry about club finances B&G.

[Pink]

Well it all seems a bit circular to me.

I mentioned Community because I thought that's what many were working towards or hoping for, but if that's lost on you B & G then.............

Leave be then...I guess that's the Lynn way....some will still be moaning they are customers not supporters this time next year......it was only a suggestion to perhaps be a bit more group organised and communicative with the owner, but hey ho, I sense the appetite may not be there...and I have practically given up on the club at this stage...things have felt stale for way too long for me.

[TonyM]

You both seem to denounce the idea of group action..but isn't that what a Community run club is all about.

The action doesn't need to be an immediate boycott of games, but perhaps a statement with signatures requesting information/meeting in return for continued support. I wouldn't have thought that unreasonable. Surely supporters have the right to know what it is they are actually supporting

Pink, I think we probably have a different understanding of community run club (which as B&G has said isn't applicable to KLTFC at present anyway).  To me, a community run club would engage with it's fanbase, sharing what information it could at an appropriate level and on a regular basis allowing for the fact that some information wouldn't be appropriate to share either due to it's commercially sensitive nature or for confidentially reasons for example.  If a community run club was receiving petitions of the manner you are suggesting then I would say it has got a long way off course or needed to work much harder to explain to it's remit to stakeholders.

[Pink]

You both seem to denounce the idea of group action..but isn't that what a Community run club is all about.

The action doesn't need to be an immediate boycott of games, but perhaps a statement with signatures requesting information/meeting in return for continued support. I wouldn't have thought that unreasonable. Surely supporters have the right to know what it is they are actually supporting

Pink, I think we probably have a different understanding of community run club (which as B&G has said isn't applicable to KLTFC at present anyway).  To me, a community run club would engage with it's fanbase, sharing what information it could at an appropriate level and on a regular basis allowing for the fact that some information wouldn't be appropriate to share either due to it's commercially sensitive nature or for confidentially reasons for example.  If a community run club was receiving petitions of the manner you are suggesting then I would say it has got a long way off course or needed to work much harder to explain to it's remit to stakeholders.

Tony, I think you have missed my point completely. The club isn't community based at the moment...we all know that......I don't need you and B&G to tell me that.......but in order to change things for the better, I was just suggesting that some group activity with people coming together might be a positive way of the town coming together to give some idea of how they might like the club run, instead of individuals just bemoaning the fact that they are treated like customers and not fans. If the club was community based this issue or situation would hopefully never arise.

I think our idea of Community based is the same.......maybe you just hope that it will happen sometime in the future, somehow.......with that stance I personally doubt it ever will

[Blue_and_Gold]

Well it all seems a bit circular to me.

I mentioned Community because I thought that's what many were working towards or hoping for, but if that's lost on you B & G then.............

Leave be then...I guess that's the Lynn way....some will still be moaning they are customers not supporters this time next year......it was only a suggestion to perhaps be a bit more group organised and communicative with the owner, but hey ho, I sense the appetite may not be there...and I have practically given up on the club at this stage...things have felt stale for way too long for me.

O dear.

It's not a case of something being lost on me.

Of course many would like to see a Community Club, or at least a community organisation being involved but that's not what you said.

Can I politely suggest you read the posts Tony and I made again and then see if you still believe your reply was relevant or indeed accurate.

Obviously if someone is claiming that others have said this, or suggested  that,  and it's not the case, they're going to respond.