Am i being unreasonable?

[rod]

You cannot but admire how our new manager has gone about restructuring the squad. Being fast out of the blocks is something of an understatement! But what a contrast with off field activities and before that comment is jumped on from certain quarters, i am not talking about the financial intricacies and detail but as i posted previously, is it unreasonable to ask who is running the club day to day: who is our proactive manager reporting to, who is responsible for ticket pricing policy etc?

When Colin Fuller posted that the official club website had confirmed Bal as CEO, with no mention of Mr Cleeve (Colin subsequently posted that the page in question had been taken down and that is still the case) i thought i would seize the moment and write to our new CEO, congratulating him and confirming that Mr Cleeve's exit would encourage me to return as a paying supporter, with one proviso: that more appreciation might be shown to older supporters by way of a more competitive  concession ticket price, which had not been the case when Mr Cleeve ran things. I made a constructive suggestion for which i take no credit; Coastal Linnet had suggested this in an earlier forum post: A book of ten flexible competitively priced concessionary tickets. I would most certainly purchase one as would i believe a number of others whose attendance at games is governed by such as health and weather.
 
Disappointingly but unsurprisingly, i have  not had a response.

[Blue_and_Gold]

You cannot but admire how our new manager has gone about restructuring the squad. Being fast out of the blocks is something of an understatement! But what a contrast with off field activities and before that comment is jumped on from certain quarters, i am not talking about the financial intricacies and detail but as i posted previously, is it unreasonable to ask who is running the club day to day: who is our proactive manager reporting to, who is responsible for ticket pricing policy etc?

When Colin Fuller posted that the official club website had confirmed Bal as CEO, with no mention of Mr Cleeve (Colin subsequently posted that the page in question had been taken down and that is still the case) i thought i would seize the moment and write to our new CEO, congratulating him and confirming that Mr Cleeve's exit would encourage me to return as a paying supporter, with one proviso: that more appreciation might be shown to older supporters by way of a more competitive  concession ticket price, which had not been the case when Mr Cleeve ran things. I made a constructive suggestion for which i take no credit; Coastal Linnet had suggested this in an earlier forum post: A book of ten flexible competitively priced concessionary tickets. I would most certainly purchase one as would i believe a number of others whose attendance at games is governed by such as health and weather.
 
Disappointingly but unsurprisingly, i have  not had a response.

Not unreasonable at all Rod.

The courtesy of a reply costs nothing.

Sadly, I have to say I'm not in the slightest bit surprised.

[Veratis]

Without being disrespectful some would say yes, if you really cared about the Club i'm sure spending a few extra pounds to help the finances would be the least we can all due considering the mess left by Cleeve with a huge loan which will need repaying to consider.
As a long standing fan you will know only to well the money problems the Club has suffered over the years and the new owners have pledged to run the Club in a more responsible way. I think the season ticket package has tried to please all and its a shame that you have felt differently. You cant keep comparing admission prices with other Clubs in the league who have a generous owner or much larger attendances when considering costings for the season. I do hope you get a reply from the Club but I guess the people running the Club are very busy approving players contracts at the moment with the new season rapidly approaching. 

[Mallard]

In fairness Ver a lot of fans were more than happy to let Cleeve dig a massive debt hole just as long as they had a winning team to watch of a Saturday. 

Now maybe some of the older fans want to see a team on budget with admission prices reflecting that.  Some of the elderly supporters can’t commit to being there come rain or shine, especially in those hard winter months when things on the body don’t work as they once did.  So the idea of a half season ticket deal allowing you to attend when you can has real meaning.

[Blue_and_Gold]

Without being disrespectful some would say yes, if you really cared about the Club i'm sure spending a few extra pounds to help the finances would be the least we can all due considering the mess left by Cleeve with a huge loan which will need repaying to consider.
As a long standing fan you will know only to well the money problems the Club has suffered over the years and the new owners have pledged to run the Club in a more responsible way. I think the season ticket package has tried to please all and its a shame that you have felt differently. You cant keep comparing admission prices with other Clubs in the league who have a generous owner or much larger attendances when considering costings for the season. I do hope you get a reply from the Club but I guess the people running the Club are very busy approving players contracts at the moment with the new season rapidly approaching.

There are no new owners. Stephen Cleeve still owns 100% of the Club via Blue and Gold Holdings Ltd. TSI now have control of operations, and that's a lot different to owning the Club. Stephen Cleeve still owns the lease to the Walks.

Some just don't have the extra money. Lynn has a old fan base, many are on pensions. People are being squeezed everywhere. Knowing that the playing budget has been reduced by 30% and at same time being asked to pay more to watch, will to some seem rather strange. Its got nothing to do with "really cared about the Club", and to even suggest it IS rather disrespectful.

I've never known a time when people become involved with a Club where they don't say they will run the Club in a more responsible manner. Certainly that's what was said previously when the former Club was formed. I seem to remember "so it will never happen again" being said. Only time will tell on that one.

What's responsible mean? Jo running the Club with the main aim of getting his money back? If that is the case, surely "responsible" would be repaying the DCMS loan before consideration is given to the any money he's entitled to? I still can't really see how a combined total of 1.2 million can be serviced by this Club. Irrespective of the season ticket prices, that's a helluva lot of money that needs repaying.

On that subject, supporters have no idea how Jo's money is actually in the Club. He has no shares. Neither him or Bal are registered at Companies House as having any involvement with the Club or Blue and Gold Holdings Ltd. There doesn't seem to be any financial charges on the Club or Blue and Gold Holdings Ltd. Was it even a loan? Was it sponsorship and somebody has now changed their minds and wants it back? Is he really legally entitled to it back, or just chancing his arm? The Supporters don't know, and some may not be willing to pay for a season ticket, or even on the day of the game, unless they know what's happening to the money they pay to the Club. Presumably the Trust members would like to know the terms of Jo's money being in the club before any financial commitment is made.

If one can't compare the price of season tickets to those being offered by other Clubs, I really don't know what yardstick to use. Surely its the most sensible comparison to use? I'm sure other Clubs have their own financial difficulties. Being massively in debt is not unique to Kings Lynn FC.

Having a "generous owner" is what got the Club into the financial problems it is now experiencing. Of course in our particular case, a generous owner still didn't stop us from having the most expensive admission prices in the division.

[Mallard]

What he said

[Squire of Langham]

Retaining the Premier seating is a clear indication that Cleeve is still lurking.  I was hoping to watch the team when returning to the town which i do monthly.  However I'm not paying £25 to watch NLN (i can sit and watch EFL2 for £19 in a cantilever unobstructed view stand).

As has been previously mentioned in this thread General admission concession pricing at Lynn will again be the most expensive in NLN. Macclesfied are charging £15 to sit for concessions which is where Lynn should be.  Come on Lynn wake up, it's not too late to reverse concession pricing for 2025/6.

[gs50]

if you purchase your ticket in advance its £18.

[little John]

Probably the most expensive in the league!
Every where else it is £10-12

[Blue_and_Gold]

Retaining the Premier seating is a clear indication that Cleeve is still lurking.  I was hoping to watch the team when returning to the town which i do monthly.  However I'm not paying £25 to watch NLN (i can sit and watch EFL2 for £19 in a cantilever unobstructed view stand).

As has been previously mentioned in this thread General admission concession pricing at Lynn will again be the most expensive in NLN. Macclesfied are charging £15 to sit for concessions which is where Lynn should be.  Come on Lynn wake up, it's not too late to reverse concession pricing for 2025/6.

Probably the most expensive in the league!
Every where else it is £10-12

It seems to me that the main priority at the moment is for Jo to get his money back (that's if he's even entitled to do so). From the little the supporters know, it all appears to be geared up for that.

It will be difficult enough to do this anyway, so presumably Bal is expecting the supporters to foot the bill for previous reckless spending by keeping the admission price high. What we mustn't forget is that Jo and Bal have been here for a while now and when some of this reckless spending was taking place (in particular Jo)! Indeed it could be said that if Jo had not been so reckless with his money, 700k of the debt would not be there (I understand that this amount is contested anyway).

In fairness to Bal, at least we haven't seem any ludicrous comparisons in an attempt to justify these high costs. Wasn't the cost of visiting London Zoo used previously?   

[Bluescottie]

Probably the most expensive in the league!
Every where else it is £10-12

Can you name all the clubs in the league that you can get in for £10-12. I'll wait for the list of 23 Clubs.

[Blue_and_Gold]

Probably the most expensive in the league!
Every where else it is £10-12

Can you name all the clubs in the league that you can get in for £10-12. I'll wait for the list of 23 Clubs.

Similar theme.

Are there any Clubs at this level that have any higher admission prices than us? 

[Bluescottie]

According to search engines, adult standing:-
Kings Lynn £18
AFC Fylde £18
Kidderminster Harriers £18
Chester £19 & £22 (Depending which part of the ground you stand)

Now can I have the list of all the clubs that charge between £10 & £12

[Blue_and_Gold]

According to search engines, adult standing:-
Kings Lynn £18
AFC Fylde £18
Kidderminster Harriers £18
Chester £19 & £22 (Depending which part of the ground you stand)

Now can I have the list of all the clubs that charge between £10 & £12

Maybe, as it’s you that’s asking the question, you should consider researching it yourself.

By the way…..welcome back.

[Coastal linnet]

Alfreton
Bedford
Buxton

at which point I got bored.
Three teams without illusions of grandeur!
Mr Cleeve was right to draw comparison with London Zoo prices. After all Eagles, Seals and Tigers will be coming to the Walks!