First Team Management

[Mallard]

Or, maybe, the new owner has taken on what he sees as a longer term project and that a sustainable business base is not built by just throwing money about.

As I recall it was said at the outset that Jo wasn't here for the long term.  So how do you have a long term project when you won't be there ?

It seems Bal is struggling with the short term. So I don't think we should be worrying about the midterm let alone the long term

[northwootton]

I think this might be a case of someone being awkward! Obviously the shares held by Blue and Gold Holdings will have be surrendered and transferred. The fans have not been privy to what agreement or contract was made between the two parties and my guess is it might well have not been watertight. I don't think Joe and Bal can do much until this is resolved, hence in my opinion, the delay and ambiguity. Let's hope it is resolved soon as all this speculation does nothing for the club and us fans.

[A Well Wisher]

Not sure about this. Pretty much keeping Joe as interim manager if/when things take a nosedive. Next 4 or so matches are absolutely crucial now. Lose on Saturday and not winning at Worksop will certainly call into question the judgement of keeping Joe on and not finding an experienced replacement.

However, I'm prepared to give this a go and see what happens. We have a good, young squad that asked a lot of questions of Scunthorpe last weekend and we are playing exciting and entertaining football (compared to the borefest that was served up for large parts of last season). Onto Saturday we go   

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What exactly is 'the project?'

[Blue_and_Gold]

What exactly is 'the project?'

Something that Alan Parsons did?   

[Veratis]

The forum never fails to make me smile. Only last week certain people were trying to kick up a storm about the Club because they didnt make a knee jerk reaction to the managerial situation and took time to review the best way forward as any good business person would do. And now the Club have come out and announced how we are going forward the same people who advocated giving Joe a more prolonged chance to prove himself have suggested that a week by week basis isnt good enough.
I guess if he had been given a lengthy contract or magically conjured up a new manager sitting on the shelf just waiting for the chance to come to Lynn without paying a fee like we did for Lakeland that wouldnt have been acceptable either.
And by the way it costs more to train and Lynn sport than Ely so please check your facts before misleading people.

[Blue_and_Gold]

And by the way it costs more to train and Lynn sport than Ely so please check your facts before misleading people.

And there we were thinking that was an accepted practice these days!

The forum never fails to make me smile.

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[Mallard]

Many thanks for pointing this out Vera. Anything else you think is incorrect ?

[Veratis]

You posted that the new regime were a bit " fag packet " when in reality that would only apply to the accounting inherited from the previous owner along with a complete lack of record keeping.
Also there was a lack of planning from the new owners whereas the opposite is the truth but this will only be judged as the Club move forward with supporters remaining positive rather than look for any opportunity to find fault.
There has been comment on financial restrictions and I think the new owners said that budgets would be set and every effort would be made to stay within those budgets over the financial year. So its quite refreshing that cost savers and efficiency are being taken into account rather than just spending other peoples money before asking for more.
Cleeve in his last days at the Club made reference to other investors being interested in buying the Club however like most things Cleeve ( like the table ) were never likely to ever happen. Also the DCMS loan would make the Club unattractive to most. This loan will be an ongoing issue for years thanks to the previous owner.
And once again Cleeve has gone and continually suggesting that he may still have any ownership is false.

[Blue_and_Gold]

So it's false that Cleeve is still there? Really? So are you saying via your connections with the Club, that the shares have now been transferred? Supporters are only looking for information, and of course the Club have said themselves that he would remain involved at the Club in an attempt to reduce the Legacy debt. He's also been seen in the Officials Lounge.

You seem to be the authority on the actual facts, so please share.

Nobody criticised financial restrictions, which you appear to now be confirming are in place. In that case tell the fans then rather than raising their expectations to unrealistic levels.

No financial records? How can that be? Trust are now investing their members money and I'm sure the Directors wouldn't put themselves in an awkward position (no Ltd Liability with a Trust), by not seeing and having possession of full and audited financial records.

And apparently there WERE other genuine interest parties. I have that from a very good source now associated with the Club,  and who I believe.

I've said this before. Supporters talk and discuss the Clubs they support. That's always have done and always will be. You may not like it but you won't stop it. By not engaging with supporters you'll just give rise to more questions (or what some would refer to as speculation). Just look at BBC News today and fans opinion of what's going on at Norwich City at the moment. Some of the comments on there will strike a chord with supporters up and down the country irrespective of what level their Clubs play at. Prior to the internet, it was confined to "terrace talk" on a Saturday afternoon, and then in the bar afterwards (when players would join the supporters...............(doubt you'll remember those days).  Terrace Talk still happens  but we are now also  in the age of communication and there's no going back. There's just more "terrace talk" available via the internet these days, so embrace it.

By the way, there's far more discussions going on via Facebook and Twitter recently. Have you taken anyone on there to task?

[Quinn Upstone]

I might be being more dense than usual (always quite possible 😶�🌫�) but I understood that two previous managers have been interviewed for the manager's job recently. One being Culverhouse and the other Setchell.

Are we to assume that neither fit the bill/didn't like the terms ? Or were the rumours flying around the stand at the last home match just that...rumours with no basis in fact 🤔 That's one for the "I know more than you know" gang.

And poor Joe really doesn't need things to be reviewed  as often as a "week-to-week" basis. That's like having a gun held to his head. Don't lose or you're out 🚪 🤕

I'm sure others on here can give endless lists of managers who didn't initially do well at a club, only to turn out to be the best thing since seven seed granary sliced loaf with added vitamins and nutrients 😋

Welcome Joe and don't let the b..tards grind you down 🤗

[Blue_and_Gold]

I just think it's unfair on Joe not to be offered a contract.

After all, if he didn't want to do the job the club would have to get someone else in and presumably offer them a contract.   

I think that Joe is good enough, what with the current situation at the Club.

Who knows. Maybe they're just waiting for the Trust cheque to clear and would then have enough confidence to offer a contract, for Joe or one of the other names in the frame. 

[Mallard]

Interesting comments Vera.  I'd just like to see some evidence on how things are so much better than under the previous regime. 

Why would the Club new owners not disassociate themselves with SC if he left such a mess?  Surely the last thing should have been was to invite him to have a role within the Club.  It's not a great look.

Information wise I don't see anymore engagement with the fans than we endured under SC. 

With regard to Joe Simpson working on a week to week basis, how is that good for anyone ?  Is it a case of being one good victory away from getting the gig on a full time basis or one defeat and he's on his way.?


One thing we can agree on is the ill thought out idea of the DCMS loan.  That burden is here for a lot of years to come.  Was taken out to secure NL status.  That worked out well !!!

[Blue_and_Gold]

Interesting comments Vera.  I'd just like to see some evidence on how things are so much better than under the previous regime. 

Why would the Club new owners not disassociate themselves with SC if he left such a mess?  Surely the last thing should have been was to invite him to have a role within the Club.  It's not a great look.

Information wise I don't see anymore engagement with the fans than we endured under SC. 

With regard to Joe Simpson working on a week to week basis, how is that good for anyone ?  Is it a case of being one good victory away from getting the gig on a full time basis or one defeat and he's on his way.?


One thing we can agree on is the ill thought out idea of the DCMS loan.  That burden is here for a lot of years to come.  Was taken out to secure NL status.  That worked out well !!!

Maybe Vera would even like to give us a Financial update.

Has the Club debt increased or decreased since TSI took over the running, if not ownership, of the Club.

[Blue_and_Gold]

One thing we can agree on is the ill thought out idea of the DCMS loan.  That burden is here for a lot of years to come.  Was taken out to secure NL status.  That worked out well !!!

Mallard.

I take it that you don't believe that the current (prospective) owners will be taking us back to NL level anytime soon then?