Would you want him back ?

Started by Mallard, November 18, 2025, 06:44:42 PM

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Linnet465

 :scarf: Perhaps he can drum up some more support and funds!

Grissles Oleary

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 21, 2025, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Mallard on November 21, 2025, 04:45:51 PMRoger Taylor didn't he make a few Wimbledon semi's ?

He is getting on a bit now, so if a semi is all he can manage these days, it hardly unexpected!


 :laughcry:  :laughcry:  :laughcry:
Perhaps a lunatic was simply a minority of one.

Blue_and_Gold

Quote from: Grissles Oleary on November 21, 2025, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 21, 2025, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Mallard on November 21, 2025, 04:45:51 PMRoger Taylor didn't he make a few Wimbledon semi's ?

He is getting on a bit now, so if a semi is all he can manage these days, it hardly unexpected!


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I'm here all week!   :laughcry:
Question everything!

Mallard

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 21, 2025, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Mallard on November 21, 2025, 04:45:51 PMRoger Taylor didn't he make a few Wimbledon semi's ?

He is getting on a bit now, so if a semi is all he can manage these days, it hardly unexpected!

New balls please
What if the Hokey Cokey really is what it's all about ?

fenlander

Well, in the absence of a strong backhander, I guess at least you just served a few lazy lobs. Let's just see if we can all rally behind the boys tomorrow, and help them pick up three match points.  :clap:  :comeon:

Blue_and_Gold

Anyone at the club available to do the white lines these days?  :oldman"
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peter

Did "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

Quinn Upstone

Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Blue_and_Gold

Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Again with respect, but of course it does. A very important point.

The Club is legally required to know who the investor is and where they obtained the money from. ie to ensure it came from a legitimate source (Money laundering regulations). There's plenty of reports out there (which have been posted previously) about where lower league clubs have been used for money laundering, especially by criminal gangs operation in the cryptocurrency game (some people refer to it as Bitcoin, but that's just one provider of Crypto).

It should also be declared how the money is "invested" in the club. e.g. Sponsorship later claimed to be a loan could be a source of illegal activity, as could money given to an individual but a company that's owned by the business is paying it back. Another one is where goods are given in lieu of being charged for sponsorship but the goods not finding their way to the business. These are probably  the first thing any investigation would look at.

There's loads more that has to be considered by any business when investing or sponsorship is involved. These are just three examples but I guess football clubs have to more vigilant than most other business's because they are in the public eye all the time.

It must be a nightmare when people are trying to give you money but you don't know if you are legally allowed to take it.

So yes, it is important and does matter.
Question everything!

MARCUS ROSE

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 22, 2025, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Again with respect, but of course it does. A very important point.

The Club is legally required to know who the investor is and where they obtained the money from. ie to ensure it came from a legitimate source (Money laundering regulations). There's plenty of reports out there (which have been posted previously) about where lower league clubs have been used for money laundering, especially by criminal gangs operation in the cryptocurrency game (some people refer to it as Bitcoin, but that's just one provider of Crypto).

It should also be declared how the money is "invested" in the club. e.g. Sponsorship later claimed to be a loan could be a source of illegal activity, as could money given to an individual but a company that's owned by the business is paying it back. Another one is where goods are given in lieu of being charged for sponsorship but the goods not finding their way to the business. These are probably  the first thing any investigation would look at.

There's loads more that has to be considered by any business when investing or sponsorship is involved. These are just three examples but I guess football clubs have to more vigilant than most other business's because they are in the public eye all the time.

It must be a nightmare when people are trying to give you money but you don't know if you are legally allowed to take it.

So yes, it is important and does matter.

You're wasting your time here B&G. Lynn public ain't bothered as long as someone's throwing their money away.

Quinn Upstone

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 22, 2025, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Again with respect, but of course it does. A very important point.

The Club is legally required to know who the investor is and where they obtained the money from. ie to ensure it came from a legitimate source (Money laundering regulations). There's plenty of reports out there (which have been posted previously) about where lower league clubs have been used for money laundering, especially by criminal gangs operation in the cryptocurrency game (some people refer to it as Bitcoin, but that's just one provider of Crypto).

It should also be declared how the money is "invested" in the club. e.g. Sponsorship later claimed to be a loan could be a source of illegal activity, as could money given to an individual but a company that's owned by the business is paying it back. Another one is where goods are given in lieu of being charged for sponsorship but the goods not finding their way to the business. These are probably  the first thing any investigation would look at.

There's loads more that has to be considered by any business when investing or sponsorship is involved. These are just three examples but I guess football clubs have to more vigilant than most other business's because they are in the public eye all the time.

It must be a nightmare when people are trying to give you money but you don't know if you are legally allowed to take it.

So yes, it is important and does matter.

I accept all that you say and, in hindsight, I worded it poorly. A better way to express my thoughts would be that whether ghost or not, it doesn't make any difference to where the club is right now at this minute in time.

We have the owner we have, the manager and staff we have and the players we have and we must make the best of what we currently have because we have little influence over any of it.

But we may just have to agree to differ.


As for whether I "would want him back ?" I would agree that he never left in the first place, but just learned how to keep quiet. Which is quite some achievement for him. No offence.

Blue_and_Gold

Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 04:04:37 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 22, 2025, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Again with respect, but of course it does. A very important point.

The Club is legally required to know who the investor is and where they obtained the money from. ie to ensure it came from a legitimate source (Money laundering regulations). There's plenty of reports out there (which have been posted previously) about where lower league clubs have been used for money laundering, especially by criminal gangs operation in the cryptocurrency game (some people refer to it as Bitcoin, but that's just one provider of Crypto).

It should also be declared how the money is "invested" in the club. e.g. Sponsorship later claimed to be a loan could be a source of illegal activity, as could money given to an individual but a company that's owned by the business is paying it back. Another one is where goods are given in lieu of being charged for sponsorship but the goods not finding their way to the business. These are probably  the first thing any investigation would look at.

There's loads more that has to be considered by any business when investing or sponsorship is involved. These are just three examples but I guess football clubs have to more vigilant than most other business's because they are in the public eye all the time.

It must be a nightmare when people are trying to give you money but you don't know if you are legally allowed to take it.

So yes, it is important and does matter.

I accept all that you say and, in hindsight, I worded it poorly. A better way to express my thoughts would be that whether ghost or not, it doesn't make any difference to where the club is right now at this minute in time.

We have the owner we have, the manager and staff we have and the players we have and we must make the best of what we currently have because we have little influence over any of it.

But we may just have to agree to differ.


As for whether I "would want him back ?" I would agree that he never left in the first place, but just learned how to keep quiet. Which is quite some achievement for him. No offence.

I don't believe that just because we "have what we have" etc and have no influence over it can really be regarded as correct. Question everything. And of course with the Trust due to be involved, they should be able to influence things. They are there to ask questions and to get answers from the club. If not, what's the point of it all.

If pushed and if they want to, supporters can influence a lot.

And of course, people have been questioning why Cleeve is still here. He still appears to know quite a bit about the running of the club for someone who's not supposed to be there or involved in anyway.

I'm not sure how that works or if it should be questioned or not.
Question everything!

Blue_and_Gold

Quote from: MARCUS ROSE on November 22, 2025, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 22, 2025, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 22, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

With all due respect...does it even matter?

Again with respect, but of course it does. A very important point.

The Club is legally required to know who the investor is and where they obtained the money from. ie to ensure it came from a legitimate source (Money laundering regulations). There's plenty of reports out there (which have been posted previously) about where lower league clubs have been used for money laundering, especially by criminal gangs operation in the cryptocurrency game (some people refer to it as Bitcoin, but that's just one provider of Crypto).

It should also be declared how the money is "invested" in the club. e.g. Sponsorship later claimed to be a loan could be a source of illegal activity, as could money given to an individual but a company that's owned by the business is paying it back. Another one is where goods are given in lieu of being charged for sponsorship but the goods not finding their way to the business. These are probably  the first thing any investigation would look at.

There's loads more that has to be considered by any business when investing or sponsorship is involved. These are just three examples but I guess football clubs have to more vigilant than most other business's because they are in the public eye all the time.

It must be a nightmare when people are trying to give you money but you don't know if you are legally allowed to take it.

So yes, it is important and does matter.

You're wasting your time here B&G. Lynn public ain't bothered as long as someone's throwing their money away.

Sadly, I think you are 100% correct there. That's until things go udder up!
Question everything!

Blue_and_Gold

Quote from: peter on November 22, 2025, 08:50:58 AMDid "Joe" actually put money in? Or was he a Ghost Investor?

Quote from: Blue and Gold Trust on October 31, 2025, 05:21:45 PMThe Trust will not discuss its business on any open forum and will keep its members updated on all developments as and when appropriate. 

Peter. This may seem a bit like the tail wagging the dog but I guess the only way you will find out anything you need to know is be emailing the Trust.
Question everything!

Veratis

My understanding is that Trust members receive information first with regard to Trust business before its made public. If Peter is a Trust member he will be kept upto date automatically.