Woeful Linnets fall out of play off places.

[Blue_and_Gold]

A 3-0 home defeat at the hands of Spennymoor sees Lynn drop to 9th position and out of the play off places.

Kings Lynn 0 v 3 Spennymoor.

Att: 1344.

(Apparently it was Academy day today).

[Mallard]

Have to think that Pink maybe hits that nail firmly in the head.  3 hours plus travelling to watch that.  Have to say think that’s me for the season. First half we never laid a glove.  Despite 5 substitutions we did little more than huff and puff.  I hope AL man’s up in his post match interview and calls it as it is.  Way off it today.  Soft I would say. Didn’t want it enough.  Full time Lynn v part time Spenny, who have travelled, 5 hours.  Serious questions need asking.

In a word inconsistent.  I’m levelling that at players and the Manager.

[DougJR]

Poor today - outclassed and outplayed. Can’t see that we’ll get more than a handful more points this season. It’s been a decent season and we’re much improved on last year but not good enough for a play-off place. We have to build for next season…keep the best and clear out those not good enough. Will AL stay?  I hope so, but who knows.

[Blue_and_Gold]

Poor today - outclassed and outplayed. Can’t see that we’ll get more than a handful more points this season. It’s been a decent season and we’re much improved on last year but not good enough for a play-off place. We have to build for next season…keep the best and clear out those not good enough. Will AL stay?  I hope so, but who knows.

This is a Lakeland team. Who needs to go Doug?

[dillydilly]

I’m here to represent the most annoying supporters - the ones who don’t go as we are awaiting warmer climes and a better team.  My beef is with the manager; in a game we should certainly have looked to win to maintain any chance of a play-off place, Al, like so many managers at all levels, leaves the fastest and trickiest player, Crane, on the bench, presumably preferring some kind of Subbuteo formation to picking the players most likely to actually create chances.  I fear we have found our level.  The support, the stadium, the team, and the financial side simply don’t look like an enterprise likely to go any higher.  I wish us all well, but reality is possibly beginning to surface…

[Blue_and_Gold]

I’m here to represent the most annoying supporters - the ones who don’t go as we are awaiting warmer climes and a better team.  My beef is with the manager; in a game we should certainly have looked to win to maintain any chance of a play-off place, Al, like so many managers at all levels, leaves the fastest and trickiest player, Crane, on the bench, presumably preferring some kind of Subbuteo formation to picking the players most likely to actually create chances.  I fear we have found our level.  The support, the stadium, the team, and the financial side simply don’t look like an enterprise likely to go any higher.  I wish us all well, but reality is possibly beginning to surface…

Our level Dilly? For the reasons you mention (support, stadium, team), I believe that our true level maybe one step below where we are at the moment. Clubs and their supporters  can't continue to be reliant on others subsidising their Saturday afternoon entertainment by lumping loads of money in. Without the money Jo has already  donated this season, we would almost certainly have hit major financial problems a year ago.

If Jo doesn't continue next season (and I'm led to believe there's now some serious doubts he will), surely this level is too high for us to compete at financially.   

Apparently the Chairman is actively looking for investors again, as well as contacting some supporters for donations, which does make me wonder if Jo has already turned the tap off.

As for AL, I'll defend him again. I really don't think he's had sufficient funds made available to him that are required to succeed at this level.The reason being (maybe) the Club just hasn't got the funds to give him.

No shame in that in this day and age.

[Mallard]

Peterborough Sports sit one place below us in the League B&G.  How does Lakeland’s budget compare to Gash’s budget would you think ?

[Blue_and_Gold]

Peterborough Sports sit one place below us in the League B&G.  How does Lakeland’s budget compare to Gash’s budget would you think ?

Better road links and geographical location means that players join on less money.   

[Mallard]

and maybe a better Manager who gets value for money from his players.   I bet Sports didnt have 8 players who didn’t make their match day squad today.

[Blueboy]

But Fryatt travels to Peterborough to play and train Blue & Gold instead of playing for his local team. Should never been let go, something else we can thank Culverhouse for.

[TonyM]

I’m here to represent the most annoying supporters - the ones who don’t go as we are awaiting warmer climes and a better team.  My beef is with the manager; in a game we should certainly have looked to win to maintain any chance of a play-off place, Al, like so many managers at all levels, leaves the fastest and trickiest player, Crane, on the bench, presumably preferring some kind of Subbuteo formation to picking the players most likely to actually create chances.  I fear we have found our level.  The support, the stadium, the team, and the financial side simply don’t look like an enterprise likely to go any higher.  I wish us all well, but reality is possibly beginning to surface…

Our level Dilly? For the reasons you mention (support, stadium, team), I believe that our true level maybe one step below where we are at the moment. Clubs and their supporters  can't continue to be reliant on others subsidising their Saturday afternoon entertainment by lumping loads of money in. Without the money Jo has already  donated this season, we would almost certainly have hit major financial problems a year ago.

If Jo doesn't continue next season (and I'm led to believe there's now some serious doubts he will), surely this level is too high for us to compete at financially.   

Apparently the Chairman is actively looking for investors again, as well as contacting some supporters for donations, which does make me wonder if Jo has already turned the tap off.

As for AL, I'll defend him again. I really don't think he's had sufficient funds made available to him that are required to succeed at this level.The reason being (maybe) the Club just hasn't got the funds to give him.

No shame in that in this day and age.

B&G, I agree with all of the early part of the post regarding 'our level' and the reliance on outside income. 

Where I would take issue is defending AL, even if he may not have the funds he would like (what manager ever does) he has a full time squad that he works with week in, week out and they are virtually all signings he has made.  What is sorely lacking on the playing side is any connection to the local area and whilst SC knew when he appointed AL that he was north west based, the lack of any visible link with Peterborough, Cambridge or Norwich (or indeed anyone outside of the north west) is starting to be more and more apparent.  Some stark decisions may need to be made in terms of full/part time next season and whether that process could be managed by SC is certainly open to question.

[Mallard]

Interesting comments Tony.  If there is no Jo next season and no other outside  investment  coming into the Club then maybe part time will be the natural outcome.    We were discussing this on the way home tonight.  As a part time Club who would the fans want in as Manager?

A.  Jimmy Dean B. Michael Gash C. Gary Setchell.  All 3 hare enjoying reasonably successful years at varying levels.

Who would Lynn fans go for ?

[Blue_and_Gold]

I’m here to represent the most annoying supporters - the ones who don’t go as we are awaiting warmer climes and a better team.  My beef is with the manager; in a game we should certainly have looked to win to maintain any chance of a play-off place, Al, like so many managers at all levels, leaves the fastest and trickiest player, Crane, on the bench, presumably preferring some kind of Subbuteo formation to picking the players most likely to actually create chances.  I fear we have found our level.  The support, the stadium, the team, and the financial side simply don’t look like an enterprise likely to go any higher.  I wish us all well, but reality is possibly beginning to surface…

Our level Dilly? For the reasons you mention (support, stadium, team), I believe that our true level maybe one step below where we are at the moment. Clubs and their supporters  can't continue to be reliant on others subsidising their Saturday afternoon entertainment by lumping loads of money in. Without the money Jo has already  donated this season, we would almost certainly have hit major financial problems a year ago.

If Jo doesn't continue next season (and I'm led to believe there's now some serious doubts he will), surely this level is too high for us to compete at financially.   

Apparently the Chairman is actively looking for investors again, as well as contacting some supporters for donations, which does make me wonder if Jo has already turned the tap off.

As for AL, I'll defend him again. I really don't think he's had sufficient funds made available to him that are required to succeed at this level.The reason being (maybe) the Club just hasn't got the funds to give him.

No shame in that in this day and age.

B&G, I agree with all of the early part of the post regarding 'our level' and the reliance on outside income. 

Where I would take issue is defending AL, even if he may not have the funds he would like (what manager ever does) he has a full time squad that he works with week in, week out and they are virtually all signings he has made.  What is sorely lacking on the playing side is any connection to the local area and whilst SC knew when he appointed AL that he was north west based, the lack of any visible link with Peterborough, Cambridge or Norwich (or indeed anyone outside of the north west) is starting to be more and more apparent.  Some stark decisions may need to be made in terms of full/part time next season and whether that process could be managed by SC is certainly open to question.

Hi Tony

Yes, AL signed the majority of the players, but would he have signed any (or some) if he had the funds he really required?

Surely it's a case of doing the best with what he has available to him.

So are you suggesting that Cleeve got his managerial appointment wrong again, albeit this time with a capable manager but one with no local connections which is a hindrance when looking to sign players ? I suppose I could go along with that one, although presumably Lakeland would have known this and also how much of a playing budget he would need to counteract this.

Of course all this comes back to not having the correct structure in place both when club reformed and when Cleeve took over.

All Clubs, all business's, all organisations require a solid base to build from. Chucking loads of money in and hoping for/buying instant success can ultimately only end in one way.

[Blue_and_Gold]

But Fryatt travels to Peterborough to play and train Blue & Gold instead of playing for his local team. Should never been let go, something else we can thank Culverhouse for.

Big shame young Fryatt left. Playing at NL level was a big ssk for him at the time but it was obvious to most that he'd get there.

Although he left on Culverhouse's watch, I don't think him leaving was 100% down to Culverhouse.

[dillydilly]

Obviously I’m fully respectful that everyone on this forum has the health and prospects of the club at heart, but I’m a little concerned to see the occasional suggestion of local players as a possible cure for our current problems.  I genuinely believe that that would be a recipe for a return to the United Counties League!  How many people are involved in the running of the club?  And by “Club”, I mean all aspects, bar, ground, etc., even changing the “Next match” board on the fence?  Is anyone computer literate? (Not sarcasm, there, I mean can do more than “surf”? - which doesn’t include me!  There are decent financial opportunities online for those who can…